TB-7076

Mike I'll have a look into the knee protectors.

Hi and welcome here in the BARC HQ. As you say you are new to the whole costuming thing I propose you take your time and make yourself familiar with the progress that was made regarding research and development of the costume. As it is quite a young project it's not too difficult to read through the Barc forums. Be sure to visit the gallery (Main menu) for great screencaps and renders of the trooper as well as the first items produced by gifted prop builders. Enjoy your stay and don't hesitate to ask questions should there be things that aren't covered by the topics.

the answer might be in this thread -> http://www.bikerscout.net/Forum/index.php?...amp;#entry12356

You can use airbrush ... but freestyle. But Tony is right, everything using strictly defined patterns such as stencils or similar techniques would fail to refelct the camo scheme of the Barc. Just look how it looks more improvised than machine-coated:

There should be a Nobel price on prop building and you should be a nominee definately! Man I wish I could afford the whole gear this year... Well bank robbery or marrying Paris Hilton with option getting divorced 2 years later?!?!?!

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow Mike - please tell me it is my size and you do castings in white/grey PU - I'd go for two pairs for my BARC and GM!!!! And in case the size is cool I might have more interest parties doing Jangos

Frank - check back for the new requirements. The hose has to be grey now Nice job on the moulds for the caps!

Ok, so misinterpreted that. Cool plan. You know I'm a fan of details so everything that is constructed out of several pieces making things more natural looking and actually constructed from pieces. And I think though a lot of stuff on the CGI models is texture and in that respect comparable to movie production costumes detailing makes a muhc more enjoyable costume for the live presentation when people stand next to you.

Do I understand that correct? You want to pull tank and detail plate as one? I would treat both independently. If I hate anything about costumes it is the look of "cast in one" pieces.

Another source is MC which are even closer to accurate imo. He and Mr.BJ are active her ein the forums. I already got a snout part from them and it's just fabolous. Those bits you got there Mike are originally produced in the UK according to one of my older sketches so that might be good news for european area lancer aspirants.

I think they softened the requirement for T-bits a little. It's not specifically asked for the Vader TIE Part anymore. However as long as there are opportunities (MC/DJ-UK while I prefer MC for the finer details) they should be used. Though I wonder if they fit on every armor - I guess some bicepts aren't made to host the near original bit.

Excuse me but I like to see your proof for no ribbing. What speaks for the ribbing is not only the MOM scout but also the original suit worn by Brinn71 and screenshot evidence. also I am not convinced that the said art student made changes crucial to the costume rather than patching. The only attributes really striking with the MoM exhibit are the missing details -> T-bits and detonator details. Other than that I don't see things abnormal compared to the screenshots. You have to consider that the film material is high in contrast and that way a few details get blurred away but you see hints everywhere that the stitching is present.

I'd use a broader groin flap - it looks a bit thin.

Outstanding work Mike. That looks really promising and I look forward to further progress.

Mazik just showed it. You probably remember my thread about the possiblity to produce a knee protector out of soft material. A major reason for this project has been the fact that the whole body of the item feels a bit more organic than the others. Of course the vacuform technique contributed to this effect but the sculpt most certainly featured curves and a softe shape. Otherwise the replicas which mainly base on straight geometrical patterns wouldn't differ from the original so much. I think working with clay or wood is the best way to achieve this effect. Using a solid sculpt base I'd still work with putty or similar material to go into details.

A question: Is the indention on each side between the two side sections intended? I know that there is one reference where it looks as if (or the material collapsed there due to stunt action) but I don't think it is the case. Otherwise fine approach.

Leather dye is only going to work in case the leather is not sealed. I'd consult pages dealing with car restoration. I got a good turorial to prepare finished leather for dyeing but it is in german and I don't have the time to translate such a large text atm. However he used US products of the company Leatherique.com iirc. I think you can also get some information there about working with leather colours. Still I think espescially white will be a b.... to apply properly.

Belt pieces come out nice. Great work.

That is vague! As an artist you know perspective adulterates (expr.?) the figures.

Looks good! Maybe cut away a bit more the already cut back of the tank top. It seems the back piece of the armor would have a too flat middle section if you proceed like that. (hints at the nice captures provided by ghst)

As that trooper we call Barc is evidently rooted in the Scout design I think it is ok to develop the costume here. However Gree and the RT-ST driver I think don't belong into this family tree if you ask me and should be left to CTN to look after. Except there was a general agreement that this board section was about to deal with all troop types deployed with the 41st. ...but I personally would leave at this one character as long as the discussion on these forums are concerned. As Army Scout foreshadowed this whole Barc venture might be an independent spin off in the future anyways. *hihi - Jay is always a step faster

How dare I flaming your post - I would smash my whole argument .

Ok 1:0 for ghst. Well 2 or 20 in a speeder among several hundreds by foot with assault weapons still make no scout out of the trooper while 100% of the square headed guys we see in ROTJ are equipped with a speeder bike. So the logic of the pictures tell me. Those guys on Endor must be fast recon troops and those on kashyyk must be infantry. Therefore calling the scout biker (which is not official -> Scout Trooper is) is more correct than calling the camo guys biker (even though Hasbro likes to do that) Don't you think?

You miss the fact that the troops on kashyyk never acted as scouts. They were combat troops equipped with standard assault armament rather than light weapons. The concentration of troops of that unique type and their aggressive performance doesn't really correspond with the profile of reconaissance troops. I agree that BARC is in the same way misleading as we don't see any of these troopers on "bike" like vehicles or other craft. We got the Neyo type troopers and AT-RT drivers piloting recon craft. So as Jay pointed out; Hasbro as the next best official or LFL affiliated source is responsible for this.

Mike must get nightmares from the dozens of buckets he applied this camo scheme on. Even the first prototype featured a high standard regarding the finish - I think every single owner of such a helmet can be lucky!