BikerScout007

Hey Aaron, Glad you brought this up because it gives me a chance to address this issue. Like you, I am really unhappy with the appearance of the Scouts in "The Mandalorian." Though I've heard over and over that the reason is "it's 5 years after the Empire! Standards have fallen!", that does not adequately explain the poor job of dressing these characters in the episodes. They are all dressed incorrectly in the same way, which means there is some uniformity to what they are doing -- it's just wrong. I think people need to keep in mind that although this is official LFL product, the costume department of this (relatively) small budget show is nowhere near the level of the costume department of the films. So to treat the films and this show as equals is a bit of a shaky argument in my eyes. However, the show IS canon and we have to deal with what we are given. I've decided to go forward with a separate CRL for "The Mandalorian" Scout, because if the Detachment doesn't do this, Scouts on their own will start dressing like this and if we complain to local GMLs we'll just get pushback like "well on the show there's a gap between the bund and the chest armor, so it's canon." The only way to protect the high standards of the ROTJ Scout is to separate "The Mandalorian" Scout from it. Honestly, I was hoping it would just go away and we could forget about it, but there's too much interest in it. There are plenty of screenshots and it's a canon source. So even though myself, you and many others are very unhappy with how this costume was portrayed on the show, I have to recognize that portions of our membership do have interest in it for whatever reason. Now for folks wanting to do "The Mandalorian" Scout, please understand that this is not going to be something that's just as easy as turning you knees over and pulling your bund down and then BOOM -- new costume. There are some fairly significant differences in both the armor and soft goods. The heavy sandtrooper-type weathering of the Mandalorian Scout is not something that would be admissible for an ROTJ Scout. And the undersuit of the Mandalorian Scout differs from the ROTJ Scout, so again -- not just as simple as repurposing the suit you already have. The way I see it, there is a different TK for each film it appears in, all with their own requirements. Same with Vader. This will be no different. This is a different costume with different requirements that will need to be carefully adhered to as any other 501st costume would be. So anyone wanting to do this will need to take it as seriously as any other CRL. It's not just turning your knees over. But rest assured, the standards of the ROTJ Scout are not being lowered at all. We've come way too far in these last 5 years to let some poor costuming choices affect our Detachment's most popular costume.

These are getting their own CRL the same way each TK from each OT film has their own CRL. Or each Vader. There are major differences between this and the ROTJ scout.

If you can source this and get one for photos I will be happy to add as an optional accessory to the Scout CRL!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW2-Large-British-P37-Pack-with-shoulder-strap/352604152782?hash=item5218d863ce%3Ag%3A~ToAAOSwu2tcdYQd&fbclid=IwAR1NTQL1gtGXgalblGToenDBkEOR5QNJ6hGZLA_ykib34F8JAcE1u8vN5SE Need to replace the strap with an army belt. Note: this will be an accessory for the Mandalorian Scout, NOT the regular Biker Scout.

After trooping with one for almost 3 years now, I haven't had any issue with it

The midline in a screen used Scout chest is about 6 inches. The WTF measures 8. So a bit too tall. The film "chest" pieces really just covered the pectorals. For comparison.

Excellent! Glad to hear it.

I'd prefer if they dressed the stunt guys better, but hey... No clue on the bag, but I'll be happy to add as an optional accessory for The Mandalorian Scout CRL if someone sources it.

The line going down the cheek should be Sahara beige. You just need to add some black wash or whatever to it later to make it look dirty. Also it looks like your snout piece doesn't have the lip around it. Yours looks more like a Scout trooper snout. You can see what I mean here:

Right but those weren't screen used bikes. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

I don't know. Just me or did those bikes look a little small?

Again... I get it was done on purpose. But it was done without an understanding of the costume. And yeah... Detonators get used. Makes sense when one is missing. That may be true, but the Scout costumes were made from the least accurate armor currently available and the soft goods were not made the way the originals were. If there was a time to show that oversight, picking out better armor for these actors to wear would have been the time to do it. It's too bad there isn't a resource where people that want to know a costume inside and out can go for research. Oh wait...

None of his Storm Troopers were so disheveled that it looked like they didn't even know how to wear their costumes. Like I said above, this is the equivalent of walking with your pants around your ankles. Is it "post Empire"? Sure. Is it practical? Nope. There's no way someone picks up a cummerbund and says -- "ya know, this looks like it belongs around my a**." Also, the way they are wearing their cummerbund betrays the fact that these costumes weren't built the same as the ROTJ ones. Because if they were you would see the codpiece in that gap between the chest armor and the cummerbund.

Thanks for your application, Sven! It's the week of Christmas so it may be a little slow getting back to you. But the Level 2 team will evaluate this as soon as they can.

You would think. But the costume department is probably staffed by 25 year olds....

Yeah Max, it's the equivalent of walking around with your pants around your ankles. It doesn't make any sense and I really get the feeling the costume department didn't know what they were doing.

I'm sure a lot of people will weigh in on this one and I am far from an expert on sewing. But this is the machine I bought almost 6 years ago when I started on this crazy journey and it has served me well ever since: https://www.amazon.com/Brother-Quilting-Stitches-Auto-Size-Buttonholes/dp/B000JQM1DE/ref=sxin_0_ac_d_pm?ac_md=4-1-QmV0d2VlbiAkMTI1IGFuZCAkMjAw-ac_d_pm&keywords=brother+sewing+machine&pd_rd_i=B000JQM1DE&pd_rd_r=03aab64e-c9e3-4733-a505-283013aa61de&pd_rd_w=q6JV3&pd_rd_wg=jErUT&pf_rd_p=aba5dc0d-7593-4752-a14d-357ecc5c98cc&pf_rd_r=7VG58P6FG00T3Y8KAE0T&psc=1&qid=1576889115

See if this helps

Moved to The Mandalorian Scout forum

That's the way it looks to me. Easiest thing to do would probably be to buy a cheap black leather belt from Target and glue it to a Scout belt

The belt construction is different so you won't be able to use the standard Scout belt. There's no rivet and that belt looks like black leather.

No exact measurements in the level 1 CRL, but 1.5 inches seems right to me. That's your average belt width.

Looks good!

@MrPoopie -- see what I mean? Looks like black leather.

I've seen some where it looks like there is something there. And it appears to be black like a black leather belt