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You just need a tan base coat. The Krylon Khaki Tan base coat is a recommended color, but if you can't get that in Germany, just something close. Obviously with a CGI character we will never know what the actual color used in the film was. We just ask you come close. @Jakeputt any suggestions?

Awesome! I'm sure @JollyRajR will be very happy not to be alone!

Thanks Corey - I'm just as guilty as everyone else in that regard so I will do my best to stay on target!

I mean essentially you would be asking the Council (made up of GCOs mainly) to vote to take away power from themselves. No matter the merits for or against, it's not something that's likely to happen and we are all better off trying to figure out ways to work within the system we have.

I mean... that's the million dollar question. I can tell you that it's the number one complaint I hear amongst Detachment Leaders. As for revoking a costume, that's an LMO question. Maybe @Hask would have some insight.

Folks, here's something else to keep in mind... As much as it pains me to admit this, as a Detachment, we have very little power in the grand scheme of things. Sure, we write the CRLs, but first they get filtered through the LMO. And then the GMLs can approve anyone they want really. The Garrisons hold all the power when it comes to that. Sure, some of them come to us for advice on the 501st.com GML forum, but I can't tell you how many times one of those discussions has ended in "well that's nice, but we are going to approve this anyway." Additionally, we live on a big planet, with many different Garrisons and Outposts that have different feelings when it comes to accuracy. Particularly when cost comes into play. It always shocks me what gets approved, even when the CRL says otherwise. As a Detachment we have banned certain "toys" (for lack of a better word) from first level approval (so the Kenner blaster, the black series helmet, the Rubies etc), but I'm not aware of any propmaker's kit that's been banned. But then again, there hasn't really been one that was this far out of bounds (though the Kropserkel armor is pretty close). This one is pretty frustrating to me as well, especially in this case, as Walt and I had discussions about his pieces before he started offering them for sale and I gave him all my concerns. At the time, RS Props, EFX and Strider were all available so there was plenty of examples of great armor on the market. But yeah with all the information we have now (plenty of it available on the Scoutopedia), any armor maker should be able to offer pretty accurate gear. I will say in his defense, recently Walt approached me about updating his stuff, I'm not sure what the status of that is currently.

Hey Dan Here's a fun fact -- command were mere weeks away from banning WTF armor completely before "The Mandalorian" came out, so it's definitely something we have talked about. The entire set has issues -- the shoulder bells are completely wrong, the knees have the wrong pattern on them, the chest piece is way too big... and yes, the helmet is really, really off. Now when we want to discourage the use of particular armor or armor pieces, we start by disallowing them for Level 2, and hoping that will trickle back to Level 1. Here is a current list of the items we've pinpointed as being unsatisfactory for L2 (at least for the ROTJ Scout and most others except the Mando Scout). As you can see, most of the WTF kit is on there. But as you have said, people are still buying the kit and getting approved for L1, even with that helmet. With Walt's kit in particular, it seems a lot of folks get pulled into his Facebook group and all the hype there before they ever make it over here and realize all the issues with it. When we were doing Zoom armor parties during the pandemic, it never failed that at every single one, someone was having an issue building the WTF helmet. So we recognize there are a lot of issues there. I mean, even the folks at "The Mandalorian" didn't use the helmet. Somehow they missed the knees but realized that helmet didn't cut the mustard. So why hasn't it been banned already? Well folks have to remember, this hyper accurate Scout trooper armor thing only really started within the last 6-7 years - mainly because of RS Props, EFX and Strider/CFO kits. Before then we all had to deal with "pretty good". I mean, there was a time when the Kropserkel helmet was considered on the close to accurate side! Not to mention the MLC. The holy grail of helmets back in the day was the Lone Wolf, and they were close to impossible to get. Now we are swimming in hyper accurate gear and with that, standards have been tightened. The Black Series helmet looks great from a distance, but falls down for a myriad of reasons, reasons even the WTF helmet doesn't have (like cut out ears for instance). That's a lot of words to say... we started to and then stopped because of the TV show (I know they didn't use the helmet, but people tend to buy whole kits from vendors), but I think now is a good time to open that discussion again. Thanks for bringing it back up. I would love to hear from anyone that has thoughts on this matter. Please post below. The Armor Team, DCAs and Command will discuss this as well.

This is where the fun begins!

I am so sorry I just noticed this post. I would stick with standard ST weathering. My guess is the weathering looks light because of how hot the exposure setting is on the camera. I don't think it's necessary to reinvent the weathering scheme as we did with the Biker Scout from the Mandalorian.

Hello there! If you haven't already, give our Armor Tutorial vid a watch. Hopefully that may answer some of the questions you have: Be sure and post up any photos of your progress in this thread and our Armor Team will be able to assist with your build!

Hi! We've already finished this one! https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_Treadspeeder_Driver

On behalf of Pathfinders Command, it is my pleasure to induct Kris "Hask" Kobus (TB-33633) into the Pathfinders Hall of Fame as a Lancer Scout Trooper for the "TB - Scout Trooper - ROTJ" CRL! This is Hask's 2nd Level 2 costume for the Detachment, having already achieved Level 2 for the Patrol Trooper! It is also his birthday today, so let's all wish him a Happy Birthday! Great job, @Hask! You have been sent a Certificate of Achievement to your email on file and your picture has been added to the Pathfinders Hall of Fame. Check out TB-33633's application here:

I was just about to say -- sounds like you need some taper in that boot! There definitely seemed to be some slight taper in the screen used boots. They don't have to be form-fitting though

Most of us don't use fans as the Scout helmet is very well ventilated. The ear holes and the channel along the back do a good job of circulating air.

I used duct tape to get mine through a few troops until I got the replacement. Good ol' duct tape!

Hard to tell from the pic, but the angle of the bend there seems very sharp. Making that curve a little more gradual with a heat gun might help prevent further cracking. Just like @Dmorja said above, I've done the same things you have done, and all it does is slow the process. I ended up getting a new belt from Studio Creations.

I recommend Imperial Surplus. High on accuracy, they are ABS vacuum formed plastic so they can take a lot of punishment.

I have to echo @Dart and @Tarok -- it's really going to vary by garrison and I see you are in San Francisco, ie Golden Gate Garrison, and they are known for being pretty strict. I'm not aware of events where helmeted characters are not allowed -- I mean, when people ask for Star Wars, generally helmets are part of the deal! But yes, at cons if you are asked to say, man the booth (which would involve speaking to folks about the Legion and how to join), I can imagine they'd allow you to remove your helmet and in that case the black hat is a good way to maintain some of the illusion.

Looking pretty good! A few things I would do before submitting: 1. Put some stuffing inside your pouches to give them some shape 2. Rotate your arm armor forward for your submission photos -- it just looks better that way 3. Your vest sleeves are a bit long, I would roll them up inside themselves about an inch or two and hem them down 4. Straighten the codpiece out a bit before taking submission pics Good job! Should be pretty easy pass for basic.

Cool! I just printed one for my daughter (scaled down for a 6 year old of course) and the results were really great

Dont know if you have access to a 3D printer (or someone that does), but @MrPoopie has created a complete set of Patrol Trooper armor files. If something isn't salvageable, maybe it can be replaced.

We only listed exact colors and fabrics where we had the info (most of it came direct from the costume designer himself, so that helped!) Just do your best to match the CRL photos and screen shots and you should be fine. I believe @KOtrooper did a lot of her own soft goods -- maybe she will have some recommendations there.

The ones you picked look very close. I think you should be fine with them. Having the exact color would be more of an L2 issue

Coyote Brown is the color that was used -- so that's the one you want to search for!