BikerScout007

No it's still 11:30. that was a mistake. Nina got a little trigger happy when I was asking her about possibly switching the time

I have no problem changing the photo to 10am, I'm just concerned that still doesn't give people attending the panel enough time to get to it by 11. We are going to be on the other side of the complex from what I understand. I guess if you hustle and don't mind being in armor for the panel it is possible. Our other option for Friday is 4:30pm. Which may be too late for some folks. I think we are just in a no-win situation here and it's really lame that the panels were scheduled so late in the process

If? I thought the lottery for the panel had already been decided? Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

Hey Pathfinders! SWCC is in just a few days, and the planning committee has asked us to post this up. I'm sure you all have heard some of the mishaps involving the 501st and certain celebrities at various conventions. For this reason, we ask you to keep the following in mind while attending SWCC (or any convention for that matter). Background: Occasionally, at various events and activities, you may find yourself face to face with a celebrity. It’s important to remember the artists, writers, directors, actors, and creators who you love from afar, no matter how famous or beloved they are, are still just people — and as much as their livelihoods often depend on their fans, being around so many strangers who feel various degrees of entitlement over their work has got to be an exhausting experience. Guidelines: This policy applies to interacting with anyone with celebrity status while involved with an official troop, ceremony (ie Honorary Member Induction), or otherwise functioning as a member or representative of the 501st Legion. Duty First: If you are at an official 501st Event (ie. line control, or escorting someone) do not deviate from your assignment. There may be an opportunity to meet/talk to the celebrity afterwards...or there may not. Note on Honorary Members or Friends of the Legion Members: For the celebrities who have accepted these titles, they appreciate what the 501st Legion and it’s members think of them. But it does NOT mean they are any more accessible to us than to the general public. If you have an opportunity to interact with a celebrity, here are some suggestions: Be polite. Be gracious for the opportunity to meet/work with them. Be brief: If they are anxious to rush to their next event, or other people are waiting to interact with them too, it is not the time for a lengthy discussion. You are not entitled to anything from them. If you are unsure if an autograph or selfie is acceptable, consult with a Garrison Officer on location. If autographs or selfies are OK, be prepared: have everything (including pen and camera) ready. If they are not OK, accept this decision and maintain your professionalism. If you have a specific question for them, ask it quickly. If you are not on official 501st Legion business when you meet a celebrity, but are wearing 501st Legion clothing or something that identifies you as a member, we strongly suggest that you continue to behave in a professional manner. The following are general suggestions taken from the link below. DO: Respect the rules of the space you're meeting them in. DO: Let them know how much they mean to you DO: Be cool if they aren't interested in talking with you.\ DON'T: Take stealth pictures of them. DON'T: Touch them without asking. DON'T: Expect them to be as into Star Wars as you are. DON'T: Ask them a question they probably hear all the time. DON'T: Be critical of something they've done, or their appearance. DON'T: Objectify them. https://www.revelist.com/pop-culture/tips-for-meeting-celebrities/3641

It's not a bad idea. My biggest concern right now is the forecast. They are calling for "snow showers". Pathfinders on Hoth, anyone?

^^THIS

It needs to be painted gloss white. Any gloss white will do but definitely primer it up first. You may want to trim it all first so you don't have to go back and repaint all the new edges you make from cutting.

That response isn't just for you. It's for anyone who reads this thread and wants to know why certain things are or are not in the CRL. Especially since these questions come up over and over again. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

The mandarin collar, like every aspect of this costume, is open to revision given the right amount of evidence. This Scout with the open collar (which I've seen about a million times) is so far the only occurrence captured. So that alone is not enough. He is also wearing the rubber stunt armor and the helmet with the unusually large lens, but we aren't making that a standard either. But if anyone can find proof that this was the standard, I am certainly open to making changes. This alone isn't enough.

Some people like to be special snowflakes There are dozens of errors and inaccuracies in the film and the CRL can't keep track of every single one of them. We have to set a standard so that our GML's in every country in the world can look at a costume and know that it is right. That's why our CRL represents the aggregate of every bit of information we have so that we have a uniform look for 501st Scouts. Gino told us that the Scouts DID wear a neck seal -- but UNDER their collar. Where it can't be seen. Obviously this scout represents a wardrobe error. Remember -- the blue screen speeder bike scenes were the very last scenes shot for ROTJ. This was at the very end of production. So the costumes at that point had been through hell and back. I think that explains why there are so many issues on this one scout. If folks want to cosplay with neck seals and pauldrons and reflective lenses or whatever -- that is fine. But we aren't adding that stuff to the CRL so it won't be allowable on troops where the Garrison demands strict adherence to the CRL.

I've seen this photo 1000 times. Thanks. One errant neck seal does not make a standard. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

Correct on the first part. If anything changes, I will update on the first post AND on the Google Spreadsheet that was created for organizing the pictures. As for the skull helmets and baseball shirts..... don't know about this one! We are going to meet at the Swap on Friday night. If you all wanted to do it then, that would be fine. Otherwise I have no info on this.

Everything is interfering with everything else, unfortunately. So far we are keeping the Detachment photo at 11:30 on Friday at the stairs. Most of the other Detachments will be doing theirs around the same time.

I'm still waiting to find out what the deal is for Friday morning on the stairs. The Detachments have still kept to the original schedule. We are waiting to find out if group photos will be allowed there.

I won't be there Sunday either. So I'm already out of the Legion photo.

HEY PATHFINDERS!! Looks like the Legion went and changed the main photo time on us. Apparently McCormick did not want us all gathering out on the steps at 10am on a Friday. Go figure! The new time for the Legion photo is Sunday 9am. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zLoaEPL4wbcUFPZw-Ae4l2qRqtr1OWwF35lnMJ02Hpk/edit#gid=42641162 So far, most of the Detachments have kept their photos scheduled for Friday, but now is our chance to decide whether we keep our Friday 11:30am slot (which is on the steps, so I'm not sure if the convention wants us out there) or we change it to another time. If I had a choice, I'd say Saturday (11am?) at the bunker. But I want to hear from all of you. Sound off!

All good! You weren't the only one

This is for the Scout from Star Wars Rebels. A flight suit was never part of the CRL.

I've never counted anything as the Holy Grail, especially not the MotM costume. It's just information, like the Scout from the RotJ blu ray extras (which is wearing a leotard instead of an undersuit!) and the Scout from the costumes book, which is wearing a neck seal. The MotM Scout is not what the Lancer CRL is based on. We've pored through every available source, photo, video, screenshot and interview to get what we've come up with. I've also talked with Gino extensively about his own research. And not just over email. Face to face. Learning everything I can about this costume has been a passion project of mine for the past 5 years, which is how I ended up with the DL badge There are a lot of things that can be considered "screen accurate". Every dressing error that was recorded on film is "screen accurate". Every flipped image in editing is "screen accurate". But is that the best representation of the costume? Not necessarily. Lancer is our best representation of the costume based on the aggregate of everything we know. Is it perfect? No. But we feel it's the best representation of the costume at this time. Standards change as we learn more info. So like I said -- just quick glance at the pics you posted --- cut the boot soles a bit and you've probably got it. I look forward to your app.

Just from a quick glance at your pics, only thing that stands out are the lack of cuts in the boot soles.

Looking great, guys. I expect you all to apply for Lancer status!

Looks good!

We've made a few tweaks to the Rebels Scout CRL. These changes have been input on the main CRL, but it takes awhile for all the servers to update. More photos will be coming to the new CRL Gallery for this costume as well. I want to thank @ScaryGuy, @Retrofire and our LMO rep @darthaloha for getting this done quickly! Please see the changes below: Helmet Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Fan-made h Helmet s are acceptable as long as they should remain true to shape of original screen accurate helmet. There is a “fishhook” emblem on the left side of the visor. There is a red emblem on the right rear consisting of a vertical red line and four solid circles. There are a series of 16 vertical black lines on the left rear on the lower half of the oblate portion. I really like the use of the word oblate. The two traps on the top rear mayr be hand painted or decals. Visor bolts are painted grey to match the traps and consist of a large diameter cover with cutout inset. There is a grey rectangle detail atop the visor with a grey pinstripe line around it. “Hole” pattern snout aerator matching the screen reference. See note below. Aerator is grey in color to match the traps and visor bolts. Lenses sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. Chin cup is optional. Neck Seal Black with horizontal ribs and a wide band uppermost, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck. Balaclava is optional. Under Suit - Shirt Black non-textured material with no visible zippers or logos. Shirt is fairly fitted and not baggy. Under Suit - Pants Pants are black and utilitarian in design such as tactical pants or similar that is modified appropriately. Pants do not have any visible labels, logos or zippers (including built in cargo pockets). Pants are plain and without decorations. The only visible seams are the side seams of the pants. Pants without pockets are preferred. If pockets are present the front pocket must open discreetly along the outside leg seam and the rear pockets do not have flaps. Optional: Creases on the front and back of the legs are acceptable. Upper Arm Armor Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Armor has a black rectangular detail attached within. Black elastic is used to secure the armor around upper arm. Forearm Armor Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Black elastic is used to secure the armor around forearm. Gloves Black, leather or leather-like, enclosed fingered, non-textured, (normal leather grain/texture/lines are acceptable) fitted gauntlet style. There are no labels/logos, clips, or external straps. Stitch lines on the back of the hand are acceptable. Chest Armor Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. There is a grey and black rectangular area present over the left breast. The sides of the chest armor are attached to the back armor with 38mm (1.5”) white cotton webbing or elastic that either matches the height of the sides in width or is slightly narrower. Shoulder bridges can may be made from a different material than the chest armor but must be the same match color as the armor. Back Armor Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. The back armor has a center tank attached. The top of the tank is flat with a detail piece painted black. The tank has a single horizontal black horizontal stripe detail. There is a hollow circle outline and 45o triangle detail in red on the top left side. No visible seam between the tank and the back. Cummerbund Made from matte white, heavy weight cotton fabric. Closes in back with white hook and loop fastener. Closure is left over right. Extends from the chest armor down to the waist. There is no gap between the belt and cummerbund. Has a tapered cod section with a grey or black inverted curve sewn in spaced approximately 1/3 of the length below the top of the cod piece. Made from the same material as the cummerbund. Connects between the legs to the back of the cummerbund at the bottom by a black elastic strap. Front of cummerbund has grey or black vertical stitch lines producing raised ribs of equal width. Vertical stitch lines continue for the full length of the cummerbund. The same color grey/black stitch line is used on the cummerbund, cod section and pouches. Belt Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. The front belt boxes have a vertical groove or grey pinstripe detail with a horizontal grey or black notch detail The rear two boxes have a groove or grey detail line around their perimeter The belt is made from a heavy white textile material (canvas/duck cloth). Hanging from the sides of the belt are hip pouches. Hip pouches are made from a heavy white textile material (canvas/duck cloth) Hip pouches are connected to the front and rear of the belt via four white matte textile straps 38mm (1.5”) in width. Straps match the width of the slots in the belt connection. Hip Pouches have the distinctive ‘corner slash’ on the flap of the pouch. The flap of the pouch have a grey or black outline sewn in. The stitch is the same grey/black color as used on the cummerbund and cod section. Four “parachute” type buckles are attached to the pouch Pouches are filled to give them a box like appearance. Knee Armor Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Black elastic is used to secure the armor around the leg. Boots White and may be lightly weathered. The soles of the boot are tan. A "dog bone" rectangular shaped strap covers the bridge of the foot. A ROTJ style “dog bone” shape is acceptable. The boots are secured up the back using white hook and loop fastener. Closure for right boot will be right over left. Closure for left boot will be left over right. The calf of the boot rises to just slightly underneath the bottom of the knee armor. There is a holster attached to the outside right side of the right boot. Holster is gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered.

Unfortunately that's all the information I have right now. The speeder bike does not belong to the Detachment so it would depend on which group brought it. If it's anything like 2015 or 2017, they usually let Scouts pose on it if they show up to the bunker. I spent hours at the Belgian Garrison's bunker at Celebration Anaheim and didn't sign up for anything.

On behalf of Pathfinders Command, it is my pleasure to welcome Shelbi "masterofheforce" Caudill (TB-8806) to the illustrious ranks of the Lancer scouts! Great job, @masteroftheforce!! Make sure you send a picture of your coolest pose to @Shortstack for addition to the Pathfinders Hall of Fame. Check out her application here: