Grumpy

Ask all the questions you want, Recon! Keep 'em coming.

Try to make a temporary fit before you permanently glue it together. (You might have to add shims to make it larger if it's still too small.) Once you get to the one-piece seamless shin, you have to slide it up your leg, probably up to your knee or past it. It's a torturous process, especially if you get a cramp in your foot while putting it on. Then you can put your boot on, lace it up, and then slide the shin over the boot. It seems to be the only way to do it. That's why the calf part of this piece looks so dang huge. You have to have room ot get your foot in without breaking the stupid thing.

My suggestion is to not overlap the two pieces. Susie's version might be a little different from MrB's version. A suggestion would be to put the two pieces together and glue a strip of plastic to the inside of each seam. And then do the bondo thing on the outside. It could possibly provide more room. if you could, post some pics of the shins. I haven't seen her style yet. I'm just used to putting the MrB style together.

(Take this how you will. I don't care.) Apparently your Kashyyyk Troooer is already approved, why would you feel the need to "rush to change anything?" Post up some pics of your Kashyyyk Trooper. All of the current CRL's were agreed upon by more than just two people. All of this can be brought up and discussed...in a civil manner. Here are some suggestions that incorporate most of what has been brought up. (I don't care if anyone likes it or not. It's only a suggestion. Remember that!) The current CRL's list the following: 1. Cummerbund - Dark grey base, with lighter grey vertical straps. 2. Boots - Main body of boot is white. 3. Riding patch - Grey riding patch on inner thigh. 4. Pouches - Pouches are either cloth covered and painted with camo pattern or covered with multi-cam cloth. Yes, Tony, you have provided a good screen shot. Cheers to you! (It's been posted on other threads as well.) It does bring up some points. Provide the 5x amout of pictures that you say you have to back up your points. I can only see what's in the movie as it plays. Yes, I can push the pause button on my DVD player, but I don't have the ability to put it here. Please post these picture for all to see. It will help with this discussion. And for that purpose, I would also like to see the "pre-production shots" of the Kashyyyk Trooper character from ILM. I have only seen CGI detail pics that look like a clay model. This is not an attack on either Tony, Nate, or Tom. Why can't any of these source pictures (Movie stills or pre-production/concept-whatever pics) be used to help with the CRL discussions? The current CRL's were decided upon by not just two of the staff members, but with input from those that already have an approved Kashyyyk costume. To me, this is the most complicated clone costume out there. I believe it is the only one, other than the Galactic Marine, that doesn't require a majority of it being armor. As you can see on the 501st site, there are no pics of the Kashyyyk and it still states that the CRL is a work in progress. What is listed is an agreement from many viewpoints. So, that's how it is right now. Those are the current CRL's. Now, by bringing up the different colors that you see, new things can be discussed about the costume. My suggestion is to have standards that are set now, and add to it for a Kashyyyk version of a Lancer. For a regular approved Kashyyyk Trooper, incorporate the current CRL. To increase the detail of the costume, have a "Lancer status." In such, that the additional requirements for a "Lancer" (I still say "Swamper") status would have: 1. Cummerbund - Light grey in base color with grey vertical straps, and rust colored spots and brown or tan colored "splash" or "spray" accents to provide the details of weathering. 2. Boot - Tan boot (most military have this style) with tan or khaki sole. 3. Riding patch - Tan/khaki colored riding patch on inner thigh. 4. Pouches - Tan/khaki cloth pouches painted to match the camo style on the armor. Now, that doesn't mean that the Kashyyyk Troopers that are already approved have to make these changes, it would be listed as an upgrade to the costume for the advanced status. END OF LINE

I've been making the pouch sets in tan (khaki) and offering them for sale. That way the owner can paint the pouches to match the armor. I even painted a set just to see what it would look like. (Weathered also.) People seem to like it. I know it could be blended a bit more. But that was just a trial set. By each person painting their own armor in attemping to re-create a CGI image from EP. III, each one will be different. Alike in style, but not exactly the same. It's not a cookie-cutter costume like the TB, where there was a tangible costume to copy. This has been in debate for the last year. (Each of the Kashyyyk CRL's.) Perhaps these identifying parts could be in consideration for some sort of "Lancer" status, in the future. Seeing how there is no such thing for the Kashyyyk Trooper at the present. (Maybe call it a "Swamper" status. No lances here.) I also like the ATACS, and the oatmeal color. I think I had mentioned that the color of the riding patch didn't look grey, but we all agreed on it. And I still don't think that the elbow straps are two separate black straps. It looks like a one-piece strap with black in the center stripe and two grey stripes on the outside, Check the picture that TB5994 (Tony) provided. I had put this picture up in another thread. I'm not here to attack the CRL's. The KST's that have been approved are fine. (Such things discussed above could be upgrades to their costume.) All of this could go up for discussion with Heatshock or Marcel, or whomever the new Detachment Leader will be. (If they feel that the topic is worthy of discussion.) And nobody's Kashyyyk Trooper will be perfect. And no two Kashyyyk Troopers will be alike. If the clones were real, they probably painted the camo on themselves, just like Gree and any other Division in the Grand Army. (327th, 212th, and of course the 41st Elite.) Shoot, mine's as old as Tom's. It has the old style to it also. But, It was cleared back then, and I still troop in it to this day. Cheers!

Good Lord! At least they aren't going to send you to the Yukon or Northwest Territories.

A squirrel fan will work. That's what I've put in all of the Kashyyyk buckets I've worked on. I put it on the side near the green lens and have the air blow across the lens and across the top of my face. Yeah, it goes over my eyes, but it feels good, especially at a hot summer troop. It sits right near the side of your face and is in close quarters, but you get air. Some people might have to position it in a different spot for comfort. Each person will be different.

Great to have you back! I'm jealous of the Boba Fett. I've always wanted to get one. I like the ESB one. **maybe someday in the future...ahhh** Stiil glad to know you are safe. Welcome back! Gonna have to get with you "Old Line" guys sometime...

SKI...!! Where ya been, man?? ** And, Matt, I also used the bottom boot for mine, my wife's and my son's. For me, it was easier to deal with. But, I keep seeing these other boots that have potential, and they look pretty good, as well.

I like that there are no shoe laces to mess with. Yeah, other than the color, it has potential. Dremmel that arch out and the smaller side arches, add a little paint, and there you go. Not bad at all.

I was just having fun with some of the extra pouches that I made. Just a rough paint job. Trying to make these things look like the over-shadowed and just-too-quick screen shots from Ep. III. Waiting for it to get a little warmer to add some spray weathering. 10 degrees out is just way too cold in the garage. I might sell this set and paint up another set. I just bought some more material, so I'll be cranking out a few more. The new owner can do the "extreme weathering" like yours. I'll just paint them. Or they can get them in plain khaki and do it themselves. Yup!

.......new recruit???

Just thought i would try my hand on painting some of the camo colors on a few of the plain khaki pouches that I have. I used a small craft brush try to blend the colors a bit. Good? Bad? Don't really care...?

Not bad. You would still have to use the dremmel to shape out the arch a bit, plus the other little parts on the sole. Then you would have just a little bit of painting to do. If the price isn't too bad, give them a try.

Looks good, Allan. Great start! Even though you are putting on velcro, the cummerbund and chest armor will cover the button holes. The neck flap looks good, too.

Run......while you still can... Just kidding..... I've been trying to get more people to become a Kashyyyk Trooper, since I became one in 2009. Welcome to the extreme madness of the Kashyyyk Trooper!

Okay, sort of back into the game. Made a new pair of gloves for "holle" in Germany. I went a completely different way. I disected the gloves and sewed the knuckle patches and wrist strap on. Whew, was it a task. I gutted the glove and took out the lining. (Should have done that the first time, but I didn't do a lot in internal sewing back then.) So, here the are. Plus, a pic with the first set of glove that I made. Whatcha think? Attempting to get as close as I can, with my limited skills, to this reference pic: Cheers!

Hey Nate, If you want, I can get pics of Alex's ("Havok" CB-4310) Kashyyyk for the CRL's and send them to you. I see that it's pretty much just a parts rundown. I can shoot some pics of all of his parts. Plus I have the two sumbission pics of the front and back, just like the TB pose. He's out of the country right now, but these two pics could possibly work. These are the two I am talking about: That way, we could finally have some pictures as an example for the 501st CRL's. Whatcha think? If these are okay, let me know, and I'll get started on the parts pics. Cheers!

Dang CGI and shadows!! It seems that they could go both ways. Sheesh! Is there a slate grey-tan color in existence?

I was always wondering about that. I had also seen another picture, but I can't find it, of the glove and that same strap, but it was wider on one part. It was a high-def pic like this one, but of a different angle. Almost like the glove strap would have stretched at a certain point. Still can't find that pic. Yeah, "not a formal buckle," but one of those little details that we want to add. Right? So, same width around the wrist area would be okay? And Nate, Look at these pics, and tell me what you think of the elbow straps. To me, it looks like a regular clone elbow strap, but it has two grey strips with a black strip in the center. Not at all like the two black separate strips that we have been doing. Are we okay on ours? And should it be changed to what's in the screen cap and the other pics? Let me know what you think about it. And in your pic of the glove, you can even see thread stitches in the knuckle pads. Cool.

My apologies as well Susie. You can send all of those sets of armor to me and I will assemble them. Archer...pm sent. (let me know.) Anyway...back to the Kashyyyk Armor thread...we need more Kashyyyk Troopers!!!

You're awesome, Susie! Keep it going!

Maybe change the golden-yellow to the brown and green colors, and add some weathering to it. Don't forget the straps on the shins, and the mesh in the "ears" of the helmet. It's all about the details with a Kashyyyk Trooper. Looking good, though. Keep us updated on your progress.

I actually have this shirt. Oops...I mean...

That looks freakin' awesome!! ...must...add...**weathering**... (even the pouches... could stand a little bit of weathering, too.) Yeah, you might have to do some adjusting. (Everybody does) But, overall, it looks great! ...In my opinion. But, what do I know??? I'm old.