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I wouldn't be surprised if the origin of the muzzle was something like that. They probably just cut off the threads and twisted some filler material to smooth out the remainder.

Regarding the belt, I think a lot of scouts wear it where they'd usually put a non-costume belt... but that's wrong. When i redid my 'bund, I wanted to be sure I had the belt in the right spot. That way, I could determine the best pattern for everything. What I did was put my belt on and I sat down. Think of it this way: When the scouts were on their speeder bikes, the belts were in the right spot, so when they stood up, they'd still be in the same place. I found that I had to move my belt up around my bellybutton to get the right look. I'll be working on V.2 of my 'bund after Halloween but I first need to find some white cotton canvas (same material used in the movie) for both the 'bund and flak vest.

The original model piece that Chef posted comes from the 1:12 Tamiya Ferrari 312T4 model kit. The piece itself goes on the engine.

I think another thing to consider here is that MC makes more than just a scout, wheras SC only (publicly) shows a few different types of props for sale, unlike the many, many props that MC builds. I think that's a big reason he can turnaround a TB order much faster than MC can.

Actually, I've got MC armour and I don't find that it's too small for me. If anything, I feel like all the pieces are the best in proportion compared to to KS or SC. That said, I think that anyone much bigger than myself (6'2", 250lbs) probably would be better suited to SC.

This might be a good time for an enterprising individual to snag the pics still on the auction website and post them in the gallery... jus' sayin'...

Hi Phil, Typically, the mudflap should be waist-wide and extend down to the bottom of the butt (more or less). The riding patch(es) typically end about 4" above the knee. As for shape, if you check out the Gallery, you can see some of the screen-used suits and what they look like. Ideally, the front edge of the patch comes around to the top of the thigh (photos illustrate this better). The 2" elastic should be mid-thigh, or slightly above and should not be loose or hanging. When worn, the elastic should be just a bit snug. Hope this helps you out.

Just sold for 17,000 pounds. Damn.

Just an FYI, the auction's live right now. If anyone won the lottery, you've got maybe 30 minutes before the helmet comes up.

Just curious if there's any updates in regards to shipping? Picked one of these bad boys up and I just wanted to know when I should expect a helmet-sized brown box at my door...

Interesting. If there is a groove there, I'd be more inclined to go with "A". Really, what would be great is to have some more profile photos of that piece (from the bottom or top to see if there's that groove). My only concern is that it also looks like it could just be the shine from a flash that's creating that effect on the piece. If it was from a model kit, I agree, it'd have to be from something that was at least 1:12 scale, possibly up to 1:6. It's at times like these that I envy the TK's for having access to real suits from the movies instead of having to scrounge around from photos like we do. Gino, you've been a great help, but there's still soooo much we don't know, ha! Any chance you could "borrow" a complete set of armour?

#2 is from the 1:12 Tamiya Ferrari 312T4 kit (the detail bit). It's not listed in the Studio Scale site, btw. There were several Ferarri 312 kits, but only the 312T4 has the correct part.

I would chip in what I could. We'd need to be sure we had enough to handle the other bids. I'm sure it'll sell for more than it's posted.

Tried it. Still tweaking. Also working on a new flak vest so I can configure things as Gino mentioned they were in the archives (cod attached to flak vest with bund on top). I was also experimenting with using a different material (heavy dull satin, using the dull side). Also did something a bit like Pandatrooper did for his cod, but with no foam. Hoping to have it all done before the end of the year in the actual materials used (more or less).

Hi Rachel, Yes, you can use a utility knife, but be careful. Mark out where you want the final edge to be. Use that to cut the bigger piece out but don't use it for the final edge. You can get a small hacksaw blade and use that to trim a bit more off and then finish it off with a file and sandpaper.

Looks pretty good! The only things that really stand out to me are: 1. You could pull up those boxes a couple of inches 2 The legs look a bit baggy. Do you have stirrups on the bottom of the leg? If not, that could help solve the issue. 3. Pouches... a bit askew. I'd play around with how you hang them to see if you can't straighten them out.

In my search, I totally thought about that, Philipp. My problem was that I couldn't find anything from model kits of the era, that was close. It's possible that it's a piece of a kit, but which one, haha! To be honest, the top hex shape almost looks like a hex screw head. That's why I think that it's scratch-made. I would, however, LOVE to be proven wrong. I'm going to message my guy and see if we can't include the recessed bit in the CAD model. Shouldn't be a big dealio.

Included some info in my other post here... http://forum.bikersc...ndpost&p=109120 Also, in regards to the thigh webbing, I just got some of my own stuff that I think might help. It's called "Plush Woven Elastic" and it kinda looks similar. It doesn't have a really distinct vertical pattern, but it's thicker than the usual stuff.

Yup, the top of the t-bit is from the MPC Tie Advanced model kit (the piece on the outside of the wing). The bottom bit, to me, looks like it was mostly scratch-made. I've been working on one to offer up here that's been modeled in CAD by a garrisonmate. There's actually a better photo of the top circle. It's actually a hex shape, not circular... As for the thermal detonator, the model bit shown by Rob is from the 1:12 scale Tamiya Ferrari 312T4 kit. The rest of it... big question mark. Some of it's just too generic (the cylinder) to pin down. I think it was mostly scratch made and the above piece was the only "bling" added to it. The other model pieces that we know of are the circle greebs on the thermal detonator (same piece is the knob on the tank topper). That's from the 1:35 scale Tamiya Gepard tank kit. There's also a couple other bits on the tank topper from the same tank kit. I think the rest of it is just scratch built.

The only flaw I can see in your estimation is that the types of webbing you list aren't designed to stretch like elastic. The thigh straps, to me, look like elastic. I can see the resemblance in weave pattern, but the actual type is off. I've seen heavy elastic like that, but it's usually for something heavy since it's thicker and needs to be more durable. I keep thinking back to my hockey days when I had similar strapping (in thickness, not colour or width). It's gotta exist somewhere, just a matter of finding it, ha!

Hmm... That's true. So we're basically looking for some sort of squarish hose or wire that's super tiny. Maybe it's another piece of tubing that was cut and put on top? I know the usual thing is to use the washer hose, so maybe this was another type of hose that was sliced around and fitted on top? If so, that'd be such a weird thing to do, and not time efficient at all. You've given us a stumper, Gino. I know I'll be thinking about this all weekend, ha!

I think that's what Gino's getting at. So the flak vest has both the bund and cod attached to it, but the cod and the bund aren't attached to each other.

Interesting. I know the cabling you're talking about. Wouldn't that stuff be too narrow? You'd have to wrap it on the skinny side but I'm not sure how easy that would be to achieve the above effect. Still worth an experiment. I think I have some of that at home somewhere too. There's also this stuff... Maybe it's a U-shaped edge trim? The ROTJ Stormtroopers had edge trim on their armour, perhaps this stuff is similar or the same? Certainly has a good profile to it...

The cord almost looks like electrical cable that can be split down the middle. Something similar to this, perhaps? Note the profile of the cable (flat sides with slightly rounded edge). Slitting it along the middle seam could give a similar profile to what was actually used. I'm just thinking about all the different stuff that was used, and even with a large budget that they probably had for ROTJ, I'm sure that if they could find a simple, cheap item that they could get in quantity, they'd use that over something more exotic. We know they used parts from Thorens and Mitchell Engineering turntables, so it's not too much to think that they had some spare electronic cables lying around. I thought it might be phone cables, but the spiral stuff is too wide and too narrow. Looking more closely, it looks more like tubing than wire. We know that Boba Fett had a piece of a dental tool on his helmet (Borden connector), so maybe the hose is something related to that? I seem to recall going to the dentist and them having a similar tubing attached to their tools for cleaning teeth.

Cool. Any chance you have any photos or can tell us how that part of the suit connects (are the straps velcro'd into place on the inside of the chest or do they secure the chest/back another way?)