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Hmm interesting, I got the impression that there's not much reference material out in the wild ... I'm tempted to ask him if the Ralph mcquarry cantina drawing was his inspiration!

I'm not sure who Glyn is,I'm guessing Lucas film P.R .I'm kind of surprised that they've not given just a few more details out..I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship between Lucas film isn't what it once was due to the mouse..

Oooh a lovely floral silk scarf.. what a wonderful Idea !😙😆😆🤭

It's got me thinking due to the chronic lack of any kind of reference material,has any of the 'head honchos' from 501st tried reaching out to Lucas film? As far as I can tell , it's literally the toy(s)design to go off of,and 1 main promo shot.. where you can see the velcro on his sleeve 🤣 and Tbh my line of thinking is they probably would have ribbed seals being as they are similar in design to the old stormtroopers, but as you say the toy does not.. however I'll probably go for ribbed if it's neither here or there as far as approvement goes.

Sorry to be a pain,but I've started working with a seamstress to get the jacket together from fabric I've located online , due to armoury shop prop not having them in-stock .However I've noticed on the CRL the collar is ribbed yet the one's they have been sending out previously were not, which one is correct? Would it be a problem using ribbed material ?as I think it looks better!

I noticed the other day that the 'storm trooper' pictured here,this is one of a few Ralph mcquarry concept drawings used to sell Star wars to the studios,looks more similar to a patrol trooper than the storm trooper design used in the originals! This was also the picture used by Andrew ainsworth when he sculpted the storm trooper , but I can't help but think it's design is closer to a patrol trooper than anything else!the non uniform sizes and arrangement of pouches,the prominence of the vocoder,the forhead shape,the belt 'buckle' looks like the hole in the back of the patrol troopers chest armour as well.I'm almost certain this was used for 'inspiration' for the patrol trooper design...he has a big pew pew and I want one 😆

Funnily enough I stumbled upon this when doing a very quick search this morning,I was unsure of how accurate it was though, although I did suspect it would be precise due to him having a 501st assigned number!

As always your help is greatly appreciated @BikerScout007

So while I'm waiting for my armour to be made, I'm considering getting a e11 to work on for display or possibly trooping, would I be correct in saying it would have to be nearly 100% screen accurate to be a used once Im in 501st,and is it even allowed to be used by a patrol trooper? Also while I'm at it ,does anyone know which free 3d print is the closest to being screen accurate? Cheers

I'm not promising anything yet as I need to discuss it with the Seamstress I've found,who is making me a bespoke jacket, If she is is interested in making more I will let you know!

Due to the patrol trooper undersuit not being available to purchase from the armoury shop prop website, I've had to get creative and find a seamstress who is willing to make one from scratch,I have sourced ALL the correct material needed and we will begin working together soon,I'm wondering if anyone else would be looking for one to be made to order ,if all goes well?

Thanks ! Much appreciated.I did measure it that way but to be honest, it's a bit of a guessing game if you're taking measurements from the exact correct location or not 😕

I'm having a problem with number 6 on the sizing chart,not sure where to begin measuring from and to, all the other sizes make sense for their corresponding parts but the indicated 6 is far bigger than the forearm piece, @Spiel I suspect this may be for the undersuit arm length but I'm just making sure.

I should mention that these jackets cost no more than £20 / $30 ish ,which leaves the cost of a seamstresses to create the ribbing and extra materials if needed. From what I can tell ribbing is essentially bunching up fabric neatly and sowing in place.As far as the patterns of stitching and ribbing, I was thinking I could copy what is visible on wips? Cheers for your time ☺️

Agreed @MrPoopiethe first version does look a very similar cut to the propshop jacket,i unfortunately can't speak to a seamstress face to face as the Rona lockdown is in full effect and only food shops are open at the moment but IMHO it's more a case of it LOOKING correct rather than it serving a purpose,for example the zip on the back is only slightly visible ,so it doesn't have to serve as a zip, only accuracy,the zip puller on the front could be removed and replaced with thin fishing thread and covered by either a flap running along the zip or by a ribbed neck covering, only the sleeves would need fitting with working zips @Hask all the jacket pictured aren't real leather 😉

One more possibility?

@Hask I've run in to a rather large problem... I contacted armour prop shop / Denis about the undersuit yesterday,and they don't have the fabric available in stock / can't source the material to make a undersuit jacket currently ( I bought some trousers already ^ that i will sow soon, so the pocket follows the seam and add the white strips , I really only need a jacket )! So It seems like I may have to source a jacket from elsewhere 😕 My question is will something like these jackets pictured be ok with some alterations ( made by a seamstress) to the arms for ribbing / stitch pattern and if needed making the zip not visible by addition of a flap be acceptable to level 2? I have contacted a seamstress who specialises in starwars soft goods , to make a one off jacket ,a week ago ,but I am still awaiting a reply. . ------------------------------------. Sorry to be a pain but I want my suit to be as film / toy accurate along with level 2 acceptable..I'll spray the inner batton holder and inner chest pieces so as to give the illusion of it being 'real' rather than 'made', airbrushing the batton with alclad metallic paint where needed, sand and painting the blaster. With the helmet I'm planning on making the teeth slightly rounded at the edges (which can be seen on the one and only real life promo shot,lol), adding black mesh to teeth and green reflective material to the lens so my glasses won't be visible 👓 installing a cooling system, which I'll post when done ,as this hasn't been covered much and CAN be done far cheaper than ready made systems, along with a speaker / voice changing system that gives the ability to sound like your voice is coming through a radio, again ,done on a tight budget...it also has the ability to sound like the judge at the end of Roger rabbit when he changes in to a toon " like thiiiissss"🤣

@Haskcheers mate,I see your from the UK too! I have just checked the CHIPs thread.There's certain item's I've ordered from another country that don't reach level 2 , newbie error on my part, so I'll consider the suit a 'work in progress' for the time being anyway.As long as I know where I've gone 'wrong' I can correct them along the way.Again yours and everyone's help is greatly appreciated!

Do these look ok then? I'm limited on where I can buy things in person as we are still in a lockdown here in the UK,the Stripes are winging there way from China and I will be removing the belt hooks if you guys think they are acceptable.ive been going through the various builds,so I shouldn't need to bother you both too much after this! Again your help is greatly appreciated!!!

@MrPoopie sorry to be a pain,but could I ask if you had any problems being approved with the trousers you have in your build? I've found some similar trousers in ASDA ( I'm From the UK)bit I'm a bit puzzled as to what is correct as far as the trousers go..in CRL it says it must be a cotton like material,and have pockets that opens along the seam, but yours don't open along the seam ,but they are made of a cotton type material.. however the ones pictured in crl and from armourprop shop like the pair @Ruthar has , I've gone through both of your builds,are made from what I would consider to be a shiny polyester type material ,not cotton, and from the limited pictures I can find ( mostly from toy's it seems) they have what I would consider to be a more polyester tracksuit/ running trousers look/ cut / bagginess to them that suit trousers don't have. So which one of these is correct? I know the strips are wrong on the one tracksuit,but I have ordered some white tape to put on the correct trousers , when I find them.. 🤔🤨

@MrPoopieI've been reading through your build,and I've noticed your a fellow Justin, there's not many of is there! again thanks for the assistance also.

@Ruthar am I correct in thinking the baton and fabric is included with the armour? I've had a quick read through your build,I thank you in advance for the tips and tricks I'm probably going to need.

Cheers ruthar, I'll have a proper look shortly,your and everyones help is greatly appreciated,thank you !

Thanks@Mr poopie and @bikerscout 007 that's exactly what I was looking for😉😉I'm getting used to navigating on here,so apologies for not seeing your build thread.ill have a look now to see if there's any other nuggets of information I can use to save myself some stress! cheers

Hello, I'm new here and only just starting my trooping journey,in fact I've only just ordered my patrol trooper armour from armoury prop shop in Russia! While I'm waiting I'd like to make a 2 items before it arrives,the leather pouches on the belt and the baton,is there anyone one here that could give me the dimensions of said items,so I can get the materials needed and make them while I'm waiting? I do have reference photos to go by , I would like to use the correct sizes though to be able to be accepted in to the 501st easily. Thanks for your time, Cheers 😁