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Here's another couple shots. More pics in my FB album. https://www.facebook.com/starwarslifesized .

Thanks Mike, it was a blast for me too. And great meeting you and BJ. It's not very often that I get to talk prop shop with people in person.

Thanks guys! I'll be posting more pics in a bit. Also have some new found part items that we're all going to want to search for that I'll post here too unless there is a better section for that that I don't know about.

Thanks Terry! Yeah I'll be posting more pics in a bit. I wanted to post a shot proving that scouts can look like badasses too.

Hey guys, check out my life-size Scout Trooper (Biker Scout). It's all taken from original molds/armor/patterns. The off the shelf boots are not the correct model (for the time being) but plan to switch them out over time. I don't get to finish many props/costumes for myself these days, so it was cool to actually see something like this come together. Photoshop background, sadly no redwoods near where I live for the time being. And if you haven't liked my FB page yet, go do it now you rebel scum! https://www.facebook.com/starwarslifesized .

Hey Donovan, I would have to disagree that they are close. But hey we will be at NYCC in October so hopefully some scouts will bring some of their fan-made buckets to compare and then share here. It's been almost 2 years since we first started bringing this helmet to the cons and I'm still waiting for someone to actually do some comparing in person.

No fan made helmet comes close to the accuracy of the EFX lid. Period. We bring these helmets to the cons and not once has someone brought any of the fan made helmets that they thought were close so we could compare them. I think once you see them side by side it will be an eye opening experience. Now if you want a cheaper alternative for trooping, there certainly are fan made helmets out there.

Hey Matt, Even though the Limited version sold out to purchase direct from EFX, I believe there are still some available at some of our 3rd party retailers. Here is a list of them you can try. http://www.efxcollectibles.com/t-usa.aspx .

To be honest it makes no difference to me what rules you guys make for your approvals. I've handled the original costumes in the archives and have an intimate knowledge of their construction and details. I'm just here to tell you how they were. You can do what you like with that info from there. 1000% that screen cap posted at the beginning of this thread is a bonafide neck seal just like the ones in the archives. For anyone to state otherwise is categorically wrong. How many of the scouts wore them and for what scenes etc.. is certainly up for debate. .

To say they did not use the neck seals on film is simply an untruth. You can very clearly see one in that above photo. There is nothing inconclusive about it. That being said, I'm willing to privately show anyone who wants to see, evidence of the neckseals from the archives if they come see me at SDCC. I just am not permitted to post any of those kind of images publicly. Did every biker wear one, who knows. But I think they are more common than you might think. There is a lot of variance to the costumes and blasters (particularly in the detailing) as I'm sure you all already know. Some tanks had the red square, other did not. Some tanks had 6 stripes, some had only 4. .

Nothing I can show publicly. Come talk to me at Sdcc.

Btw, awesome screen cap Christian. That area is usually so dark in the film that it's really hard to spot them.

Hey Philipp, I tried to send you a pm but I the forum said you could not receive any new messages. Is your inbox full? I have a proposal that I would like to talk to you about.

Guys, I can 100% confirm that is a neck seal. I saw them in person at the archives.

Well if we made compromises to bring it down to such a low price point then that would be a low end helmet and that isn't the kind of product that we are trying to make. Here's a shot of Trevor wearing the weathered Legend at NYCC this past Oct. from the other thread. For me seeing it on a person just drives home how important using original molds is regarding the correct look. Just awesome. Looks straight out of the movie. .

No they are still separate

Sweet!

Aw man, l really hope some of you guys can make it out to SDCC. It's cool because I'm able to share so much more privately in person than publicly. And there is lots to share.

You drop a screen used helmet and it would be a lot worse from a damage standpoint I can tell you that much. lol

Thanks Tim, and hey if you ever make it out to one of these shows, come find me and we can talk scout!

Because of this: copied and pasted from other thread ABS is just out of the question for mass production. Having a factory try to replicate the difficult process of joining, filling, sanding/blending the halves together would be VERY time consuming with inconsistent results which translates into costing a lot more to produce, not to mention significantly more vulnerable to damage. It would be a quality control nightmare. For one example, collectors would be wanting replacements at the first sign of a paint crack (which could easily be caused with just a bit of flexing the helmet) where all the halves are joined. All it takes is once slight squeeze or spreading open when trying to get your big melon head in it and boom, paint crack. Most of the originals show paint cracking in the seams and if we made them in the exact same manner we'd have the same high risk. It's fine for a film prop where it won't show up on screen, but not okay for a high priced collectible. As a prop collectible company, you have to take those kinds of things into consideration. And it's a different world when managing the production of a 1000 pieces vs making a few out of your garage. And yes, in case there was any uncertainty, all the original scout helmets are painted white and not bare ABS. For the efx prototypes, we used the original production molds for everything except for the faceplate, chin cup, and eye lens. For those pieces, we took molds from the interior of a screen-used helmet. All these molds were vac-formed and assembled into a 1st gen helmet of the production molds, and then molded from the outside to produce fiberglass pieces.

Well I most certainly did not mean to come off as talking down to anyone so apologies if that was the case. I'm simply just trying to lay out the facts as to avoid any confusion. I'm sure in time once these are out there for others to see, those people will reinforce all the things I've stated. This really is a great time to be a scout fan.

Well, very close is subjective depending on how well you are familiar with the original helmets. I think only seeing a comparison to other fan made pieces will be able to show people just how different. To me, they are not even close. But to other less discerning collectors, they might see the fan made's as close enough. I say check them out in person if you can, and see for yourself. Hopefully there will be some people at SDCC who will have some of these with them at the show and we can do some comparing. And hey, while you are there, there's a lot of behind the scene pics and such that I can share privately for those who care about that sort of thing.

No disrespect to LW or anyone else but not even close. Like I said before, I think once you see them in person side by side will be an eye opener. .

Well, I'll be in SDCC with this helmet, I encourage anyone who has a fan made to bring theirs and we can compare them in person. I think you will be astounded just how different and more accurate this helmet is compared to any fan made. As well it should being as it is from the original molds and all the fan mades have incorrect proportions details when compared to an original.