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Hand guards, expanded forearm, expanded bicep. Looking great, comfortable to wear and full articulation with no restrictions to movement. Holding bell at wrong position but you get the idea.
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We do not know all of what is going on inside the bell and bicep but we know some of it. Combining the reference and information we have been given we are satisfied with how they are designed, assembled and rigged.
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Revised left forearm halves minus cover strip. Expanded version.
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More than often we have seen the Shoretrooper armour battered up with its paint falling off and armoured parts opened up like the biceps pictured above. In fact I have grown more accustomed to seeing it this way more than any other as there is lots of reference with it shown in this condition. It is as much part of the costume as anything else is. Personally we do not care how the costume was supposed to look or how the creators may have intended it to be. We know they had a lot of fitting issues transferring it from a 3d model to a practical costume and we know that the suit was very flexible and adjustable. The reality is that it appears differently in different images with varying degrees of how it is worn and adjusted. What we want to do is recreate the look of the costume you see before you as accurately as we can and to do that we cannot ignore or dismiss what is seen. For me it is part of the charm of this armour, warts and all and I am looking forward to building the well used and worn version.
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Yeah there has been some crap applied to those right side biceps but adhesive was not used to hold them together. Note there is none on the left. Elastic cord was used as seen in other reference. It pulls them closed around the arm. There is a lot of overlap in the biceps and they can expand a long way before they open up and gap is seen. What we are avoiding doing is scaling up the parts or changing the shapes in order to make them fit the costumer. This will only off the look and make it inaccurate. As accuracy is the brief we are relying on the parts to expand/stretch to accommodate the costumer as the screen used parts did. If we have to model them stretched or take the fully closed variant and heat form it wider, so be it. Either way will give a consistent look that is found in the reference. Same again applies to the forearms and shins.
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I might add you are going to encounter fitting issues with this costume if you are expecting to wear it in its "idealised" form ie. with all the parts closed tight and correct. As I mentioned earlier the filaments used in printing do not have the flexible qualities of the screen used rubbery resin.
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I have just edited my response and added the pictures to the earlier post so you can see them.
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Hey man. Thanks for following and thanks for the support. We appreciate it
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We are confident we have the biceps correct due to the information we have regarding them. We were fortunate enough to be supplied with good reference material. When taking photo's from 5 feet away compared to taking photo's from 15 feet away, different lens, zoom, height at which it was taken. I cannot possibly set up the same scenario as I cannot match all those unknown variables so to put 2 pictures together taken under very different circumstance and try and match them up exactly is impossible. To then try and say whether part A is off compared to part B using only those 2 pictures would be not very helpful. The expanded bicep has been simply pulled wide. The overall shape is the same. It is not a wardrobe malfunction as discussed on my page. The biceps clamp around the arm and are held closed by elastic. The screen used armour (unlike PLA, PETG etc) is very flexible and will open up. It can be seen across all the displays and in the film too. It is not a malfunction but an actual function of how the armour fits and works. This applies to the shins, biceps, forearms and the torso to some extent. I have posted multiple screen caps in that discussion showing the biceps widened on both TK's and ST (The arm armour are identical and strapped the same) What we cannot do with PLA is make it as rubbery as the screen used therefore none of the flexibility of the screen used suits. You can heat it up and manipulate it to widen for a better fit or in this case we have modelled a pair that match what is seen on screen and in displays subsequent to the films release. Once again pictures backing up all of this are on my page. If the builder wishes to make that particular set for that particular look then it will save the risk of heating the PLA to widen them. Interesting to note there were 2 versions of the armour made. A stunt and a hero version existed. The stunt being made more flexible for obvious reasons. That being said the expanded parts are present across the board. Screen caps from Rogue One. SWCE 2016
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Revised and painted biceps with the the squares lowered slightly. Open on the left, closed on the right. The second image show the screen used bicep next to ours. Give or take camera angle, distance , lighting etc.
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Dropped the squares 3mm to match the lower positioned reference. A little amount but a big difference.
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Thank you for your comments Rudi. Always appreciated. It is a team effort and I am very lucky to be working with such talented folks.
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Rear shot. Still modelling the unrevised parts however this shows with the closed biceps, open forearms and wide spine plate variations. You rarely see a fully closed bicep on the Shoretrooper or the Stormtrooper for that matter. We have decided on a fully closed version and an expanded variation. The closed version still expands and can be stretched wider but because of the nature of the materials used for printing it's rigidity makes it want to spring back and clamp around the arm. Which is not a problem. So to capture the stretched appearance of the more flexible Rogue One armour (and to avoid having to heat the material to widen it) a variant will be available. Left: Open. Right: Closed.
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A shot from the side taken the other day so it still has the unrevised biceps and forearms. It does give you an idea of the silhouette.
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I know it looks finished but we are still revising parts of the armour. Awaiting new biceps and forearms from the printer. Possible revisions to the shins as well.
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Shoulder bell assembly installed. Shoulder bridge and buckles fixed into position.
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With the armour under revision the soft parts also have not escaped. Recently I commissioned my breeches to be updated and made more inline with what the screen used look like. The under shirt is another matter altogether. Sheev's Emporium has got involved again to do what he does especially well. Here are a couple of recent update pics from Sheev.
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I am still awaiting parts for the chest to be completed so we can see how well it all holds up against screen ref. The armour is going to go through a series of small revisions/tweaks starting with the shoulder bells. They have been already reprinted and painted. Minor change of an angle and some detailing inside. Colours used on the bells are. Ford Rio Brown, Montana Gold Sahara Beige, Halfords Matt Black and Montana Gold Pebble White. Also looking forward to seeing some new work from Sheev’s Emporium at a later date. The No.1 tailor for Shoretrooper undershirts/neck seals. The soft parts are as important as the armour so very excited about that.
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The chest plate is painted and the shoulder straps mocked up. Still waiting on some other parts to be fabricated before I can assemble and take a good look at it. I have tacked in the foam for the chest and back. This time around I am using 6mm high density neoprene as I am finding it difficult to locate Plastazote dense enough to match the screen used. Plastazote was confirmed way back by Mr Dillon but I can live with neoprene as long as it looks the part. That is what is important.
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Very pleased with these. They have that beaten up post production look I was going for. The weathering, colour and mark making is consistent with what I have seen in reference and all in all make for a convincing pair of shins.
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Trying to replicate the right style of weathering and the same mark making over my kit as the screen used. I am kind of happy with it. I have allowed for some natural wear and tear to take place through use so I have not overdone what marks there are. Here a a white end cap is revealed via some paint damage to the edge. This image shows the screen used torso on the right and mine on the left. The same type of marks are apparent on both and it tells the same story. Very happy with the results so far.