Retrofire Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 That's fine doing the vest first. There is a tutorial for the bund here: and if you can do the vest you'll be just fine making the bund. @BikerScout007 is a jedi master of the bund and it's various measurements and materials so feel free to reach out here or with ST6. The bund and pouches are front and center on your scout so you want that to look sharp😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Retrofire said: That's fine doing the vest first. There is a tutorial for the bund here: and if you can do the vest you'll be just fine making the bund. @BikerScout007 is a jedi master of the bund and it's various measurements and materials so feel free to reach out here or with ST6. The bund and pouches are front and center on your scout so you want that to look sharp😉 Well I don't know about that, but it is a very simple garment to make. My example was for the one I made for my daughter, but the technique is the same. Just make sure you make it 8-9 inches in high so that you can attach the pouches by the tab and the bottoms of them line up with the bottom of the bund! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 So can it be slightly larger then 9”? As it’d tuck under the vest. Have the bund material cut, just need to sew the edges and cut the felt now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 A little over 9” is fine. There’s no specification in the CRL, but the armory team recommends that 8-9” because we’ve found that it works pretty much with most body types and creates a much cleaner look than the huge bunds that were made back in the day. It’s also our best guesstimate as to the size of the originals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 13 hours ago, DukeOfNachos said: So can it be slightly larger then 9”? As it’d tuck under the vest. Have the bund material cut, just need to sew the edges and cut the felt now. Ideally the pouch should fit squarely on the bund from top to bottom, including the attachment tab. The attachment tab should be about 2 inches in height, so that's plenty of room to go under your chest armor. The remaining 6-7 inches will be seen from the outside, and should pretty much rest on top of the belt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 Awesome, so got the bias tape on my flak vest, it doesn’t look raggedy anymore got the cumberbund and batting cut to length and then before attaching one end of the batting to the bund to roll out my machine gave up the ghost… so I’m currently stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 So with my machine down for two weeks till I replace it I decided to tackle notching my boots. Took about 3 hours and a lot of hunching over to get it done, but it’s at least some forward progress. -> RT boot so all done using a #17 chisel and a standard blade. Is there some way to easily clean it up, kinda afraid of putting an end mill bit in there on my Dremel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnkelPaschulke Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Looking good! I've used a soldering iron with an old wide tip for smoothing the surface. It worked well with my boots, but you should try it first under the boots if it works with you... 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 Thanks @OnkelPaschulke I’ll have to try that, second boot isn’t as clean as my first, no injuries on the second one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Ok, new year, new sewing machine! Back on the cumberbund, got the bunting socked in just need to suit up and see how it sits. -> Bund laid out. -> Bund Ribs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 So bund is formed, figuring out Cod while I get the vinyl ready for my boots. In placing the pattern from @Aradun are my riding patches ok, they’re not fully covered by the Cod and I’m sorta freaking out? -> for the love of murderous tree bears.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Not a big deal to adjust. If you unpick just the upper top edges of the riding patches, then you can cut a curve in them a bit and you'll be good. But before you do that, how does it look when you're wearing it? That photo looks like it's on a table? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 So, keep in mind that how things look when laid out on a flat surface will be very different from how it will look when worn. My advice would be to suit up and tape the cod pattern in place, take a pic and post it up so that the armory team can take a look at how everything fits and where things line up. Then we can give you solid feedback on any alterations that may be needed.The only concern I see is the possibility that those sharp right angles at the outer top of your patches may protrude from the cod when worn. If you look at the CRL photo you can see how the top of the patches curve into the cod.And in the photo of an original suit below, you can see that while the patches come up higher than those in the CRL, they still curve into the cod.I made my patches the same way as you during my build, but@Chopper recommended that I round the corners. I did and there was no issue.But again, before you make ANY changes, don the flight suit, attach the cod pattern and post up a pic, and someone from the team will guide you from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 @Chopper @Aradun I’ll do that in the morning, I think I could hand sew that small bit after trimming if need be right 🙄. Took to the boots tonight (I mean they’re going to take awhile to do so might as well start now ) …baby steps! -> pinned boots! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Yes, you could hand sew it. It's black on black, so not very visible from more than a foot away. Just make sure to start your hand stitching before the machine stitching ends, so it doesn't become unravelled. But first, give it a try on, once your cod and bund are finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ok suited up so I can try to figure this out, bund feels like it’s short. But here goes ! (Daughter said I looked deep fried on the left) -> Trust the process… After I posted this I messed with s’more settings on the photo, my boxes cover the edge of my riding patches so It may be fine, I haven’t added Velcro to the vest/bund but with it being already closed etc is it still the right point to install the hook and loop? I could see maybe some on the rear of bund as well as maybe a small strip on each side of the vest area to make sure it doesn’t dip under the chest piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 The first item to get into place is the belt. As a rough guideline I usually tell people to find your belly button and then put the top edge of the belt just below that. Is that about where yours is? Your belt looks a little high, but you tell me where it's sitting on you. The bottom edge of the bund sits on top of the belt, so once you get the belt positioned right, it's a lot easier to adjust the other parts of the costume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ok positioning should be correct this time. -> Front -> Left -> Right Navel is 1” above the lowest snap, top of the belt is sitting there. I have a feeling that when I made the bund I made it maaaaybe 2” too long, that could be fixed by adding an extra strip of Velcro to cinch it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Nice, looks better. I should note that your bund looks a little loose though. Have you done the velcro in back yet, or are you still getting it fit and adjusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 So I have the Velcro in back, it looks like I may need to add another strip to get it cinched though. Or I could just seam rip the Velcro off, cut and reattach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 How far over is the attachment tab in the back, once you've tightened it to fit? It should ideally be generally be close to centered, but it doesn't need to be perfectly centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 I think its safe to say that it's almost off )like the hook is catching the edge of the loop to get it to the point I'm at in that photo, it may be time to seam rip/cut the ends and reposition to bring it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 So since the H&L was over 2” difference for a good fit I just snipped it and rehemmed/affixed the hook. Good fit now over a sweater (gives the same fit as my suit) will get a reshot tomorrow at lunch/after work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeOfNachos Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 Happy Friday pathfinders! Suited up to have the armory team tell me about the gear, love you guys! -> Soft Parts (Cod pattern) ->270 (mostly armored, pauldrons aren’t attached to chest here) Still to do: -> Need to adjust my belt/straps. -> Shoulders aren’t connected to my chest piece as I need to redo the connection for Lancer. -> Need to install the upper straps on the knees. -> Install Velcro on the vest/ suit -> Finish boots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 This is a good suit up! I'm sure @Aradun and @Chopper will weigh in and I'll share some things I'm seeing, I agree with what you mentioned you have to fix apart from the knees and I'll explain that in a minute. Your boxes should be about an inch from the belt and your shoulders seem to be a bit too far out from your shoulder bridges. You'll want to rotate those forearms to sit on the top of your hands and move them a little further down your arm so they are not touching the biceps. The biceps could move up a bit to increase the spacing between them and the forearms. Regarding the knees the upper strap is optional so you do not have to install one if you so choose. I would also pull your bund up so it sits on your belt and straighten out your belt. It looks a bit too high in the back. You can see where the bund is bunching at the back of your belt area. Overall it's a good start and most of this is fitment of the soft/hard armor and that will come in time. There will be some adjustments so don't get discouraged. You're doing a great job and keep it up as you're almost there!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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