Pouch position for lancer?

[fil5117]

I’ve been working on the pouch position for lancer, posting a progress pic on Facebook. My friend (previously on the lancer board of judges) Commented they were too close. They hug the edges of the last rib of the bund. I originally positioned them an inch from the last rib, and possibly incorrectly felt they were too far apart. I thought they shouldn’t extend too far past the edge of the chest armour. At the moment mine are in line with the edges of the chest armour. I’ll post fully kitted up pics when I can.

[Jakeputt]

I’ve been working on the pouch position for lancer, posting a progress pic on Facebook. My friend (previously on the lancer board of judges) Commented they were too close. They hug the edges of the last rib of the bund. I originally positioned them an inch from the last rib, and possibly incorrectly felt they were too far apart. I thought they shouldn’t extend too far past the edge of the chest armour. At the moment mine are in line with the edges of the chest armour. I’ll post fully kitted up pics when I can.

This is the standard, each body type is different. You just need to make sure the pouches are lancer size and there's a correct number of lines on the front of your cummerbund. Other than that they typically sit about your front oblique area.

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[Chopper]

Can you post the progress photo here and we'll take a look? It doesn't need to be fully kitted up for us to get a sense of the pouch spacing. 

[fil5117]

6 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Can you post the progress photo here and we'll take a look? It doesn't need to be fully kitted up for us to get a sense of the pouch spacing. 

Will do, ta

[fil5117]

[fil5117]

I'm having difficulty getting my head around the idea sizing and positioning (not a dig, more striving to understand the costume, which for me is the whole point of the lancer exercise). In my mind the pouches should hug the chest armour, and touch the top of the belt, extending little past the edge of the armour - though I've seen images which contradict this. If this is wrong my guess is the pouches should be an inch from the outer bund ribs, and dropped down a little, to show a little more of the tab. If this is the case, my pouches may need to be a little smaller so they don't overlap the belt, and don't extend to far past the edge of the armour.

I appreciate your assistance and advice on this, it's all learning.

[Chopper]

Okay thanks, I see what you mean. 

And to clarify, your pouches are the standard 6x5x2 size?

[fil5117]

Yes they're the standard size. I've just measured and confirmed the width of the tab is 5 inches, 6 inches in height and 2 inches (measuring the pouch depth).

The pouches are close to the top of the bund (roughly 1/4 inch) and there is a little gap at the bottom (roughly 1 inch), so I could drop them a little bit vertically. I also consulted my armour supplier and he thought an inch was an over estimation and suggested I align it to the rib (at least for me).

[fil5117]

My current thought is to rest the pouches on the belt, exposing more of the tab, and move them across 1/2 an inch - clearly exposing the bund ribs.

[BikerScout007]

Honestly -- I don't see anything wrong with your pouch placement here, even for Lancer.  Hopefully everyone reads this post, because it's been a long time since we talked about the pouches:

When we went to a standardized size, the reason was to stamp out the glut of oversized, undersized or oddly-shaped pouches that people were making back when we left it up to their discretion.   We understood at the time that in a few small percentage of cases, someone's body type or armor shape wouldn't look perfectly screen accurate with the 6x5x2 pouches, but that in the majority of cases it would be a massive improvement.  And it has been, in every way.  

Positioning the pouches about 1 inch from each outer rib on the bund is a great guideline, but isn't going to always be possible 100% of the time.  I think the real metric, what you have done here, is to line up your pouch with the outer edge of the chest armor -- which is how it was done in the film.   

But not every chest armor kit is the same, just as everyone is not the same height or width, and occasionally it will be off a little bit.  That is totally fine.  As long as your pouches are generally where we want them and they meet the measurement requirement, you will be fine for Lancer.  

This picture below illustrates the problem of having costumers determine their own pouch size.  It's from about 10 years ago -- and I am not chastising any of these troopers.  They were working under the CRL at the time.  You'll be hard pressed to find any set of pouches in this photo identical to another set.   They are all completely different.  This is what standardizing pouch sizes fixed.  And the fact is, less then 4% of Scouts ever become Lancers -- the idea was to fix the problem for the vast majority of our Scouts, not just the ones going for L2.  

I hope this helps!