Meowied_Cass Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 First post of many. This will be a long build mainly due to my helmet on order from temple armoury (aussie based vendor), temple armoury is run by past 501st members who make some helmets as their hobby. Their helmets are great quality and they come highly recommended by my fellow garrison members. The only downside is that there is so much demand for them, there is a massive waitlist, but i am chill with waiting. However i am so excited to build my scout so i decided to work on the rest of the costume while i wait! My first step after extensive researching was to buy my flight suit. I wanted to buy rather than make from scratch because one time i tried to make pants and well it was bad...very bad. This is technically a coverall but it matches the required description. Now do you know how hard it is to source a BLACK coverall/flight-suit in Australia? It is near impossible! At the time i was concerned about USA shipping due to USPS not delivering but from my thread here and the help of you wonderful members, i now know UPS is delivering! YAY In Australia locally you can find orange, white, NAVY, green and grey coveralls but no BLACK! I bought this from dicksmiths website, sourced from who knows where LOL. It took about a month and half to arrive. It is HILARIOUS how big this is on me! 🤣 I had to order this size though to fit my hips in 🙈 Yes this is going to need a lot of altering but i am okay with that. I am pleased with the colour and the quality though which is my main focus. Update next time i start the altering process....🙃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Most of us use coveralls so you are in good stead! Make sure you give this post a read: We are here for you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Hey I wear coveralls too!😅 This is a great start! If you need any help with the refitting @M.J Is a Jedi master with a sewing machine and fabric and I bet you could bounce any questions off of her. Keep up the great work! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just out of curiosity, what's the selection of synthetic fabric dyes out in Australia? We have RIT Dyemore, which would work well for any future scouts who can't find a black set of coveralls and want to dye a set. What's the selection like for that where you are? EDIT: Google to the rescue -- https://ritdye.com.au/shop/ols/products/rit-dyemore-graphite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Cass, all the scouts lve helped here in Victoria are all 2 piece, I’ve replaced my top once it’s around 10 years old. I brought a black thick mens shirt from Harris scarf, and canvas pants from bigW, make sure all out side pockets are unpicked. the shirt will need some alterations but very simple.. pants being separate makes it much easier to so the patches and elastic. Please reach out to me. I’ve got a cute photo of 3 troopers in my kitchen unpicking … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Chopper said: Just out of curiosity, what's the selection of synthetic fabric dyes out in Australia? We have RIT Dyemore, which would work well for any future scouts who can't find a black set of coveralls and want to dye a set. What's the selection like for that where you are? EDIT: Google to the rescue -- https://ritdye.com.au/shop/ols/products/rit-dyemore-graphite We have Rit available! and a few other brands depending on material. I didn't even think about dyeing! I've got a tiny amount of experience from my offworld jawa. Ahh well maybe next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, M.J said: Cass, all the scouts lve helped here in Victoria are all 2 piece, I’ve replaced my top once it’s around 10 years old. I brought a black thick mens shirt from Harris scarf, and canvas pants from bigW, make sure all out side pockets are unpicked. the shirt will need some alterations but very simple.. pants being separate makes it much easier to so the patches and elastic. Please reach out to me. I’ve got a cute photo of 3 troopers in my kitchen unpicking … Hey M.J Thank-you! I am going to try out for lancer status so i needed a one piece flight-suit. I've read the threads about pros and cons of one piece vs two piece, i am not too concerned about bathroom breaks, i never go to the bathroom in my jawa, even in smaller troops, i will always change into my regular clothes. That being said who knows, i might find it too difficult but i want to try first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 https://www.theleathershed.com.au/products/pig-skin-suede?_pos=2&_sid=ef4d95f03&_ss=r&variant=39291111866479 Hey Everyone, Wondering if someone would be able to verify that this would be a correct real suede for the butt patches and thigh patches? I just want to confirm before purchasing. Thank-you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Meowied_Cass said: Hey M.J Thank-you! I am going to try out for lancer status so i needed a one piece flight-suit. I've read the threads about pros and cons of one piece vs two piece, i am not too concerned about bathroom breaks, i never go to the bathroom in my jawa, even in smaller troops, i will always change into my regular clothes. That being said who knows, i might find it too difficult but i want to try first. FYI Cass, you do not need a one-piece undersuit for Level 2/Lancer. It only needs to have the appearance of one. If you're good with a one-piece, go for it. 2 hours ago, Meowied_Cass said: https://www.theleathershed.com.au/products/pig-skin-suede?_pos=2&_sid=ef4d95f03&_ss=r&variant=39291111866479 Hey Everyone, Wondering if someone would be able to verify that this would be a correct real suede for the butt patches and thigh patches? I just want to confirm before purchasing. Thank-you! Yes, the suede in the link looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 First step to my modified flight suit....unpicking!! Unpicked the back pocket, this suit only has one. I unpicked a weird side pipe pocket (it was very narrow). I sewed shut the side pockets and then cut off the pocket material on the inside. I also unpicked both flaps of my chest pockets and took pliers to remove the snap buttons. I still have some time left in my spare spare time so i decided to start altering it. First step cut it into half! Why? I noticed when putting this on that i have to raise the waist line to my body as it sat far to low. The easiest way was to cut in half. Once cut in half i pulled the pants on and pulled it up so that it sat like normal pants, then pinned in place. This allowed me to see where it will sit so i can pin the sides in and hem it to my ankles. As you can see it needs a fair bit taken in. But i did have to order this size due as i am large in my belly area (not ashamed just telling it like it is). All pinned in placed ready to be sewn up. That white part is the sewed off pocket ( you can't see it on the suit). Once the pants were done it was time for the top half. Which follows the same thing as the pants, trying them on and pinning in place where i need to take in. Its important to note that when taking things in you don't make it too tight. When i pinned my pants, i then carefully rose my legs, practised sitting and kneeling . This makes sure i am still able to do full movements when i am in my full armour. For the arms, i bend them, raised them up and crossed my arms. After i sewed everything i then retried them both on and repeated the same movements. At this point i was also making sure there wasn't any baggy areas. I was very happy with the result so i moved on. I personally feel if i take in any more i wont be able to move. Next step: re-attaching both pieces to make one flight-suit Very simple process (i forgot photos). Put on both parts of the suit and then once i have everything repositioned i then pin and sew in place. Before this i have unpicked the waist "belt" line. Then i reattached the waist belt line which has a tiny amount of elastic hidden in to help take off stress of the suit when moving, since its a thicker material. Heres the result of the steps so far. So i moved to a different light to try and capture the chest pockets being more invisible and flat than they were. Very happy to say that is looks 1000 times better and you wouldn't know that this baby got sawed in half! Now before some people come at me for re making it a one suit and not a two piece.... I had issues keeping it two pieces. It was uncomfortable, every time i walked, it moved too much and i felt i was constantly fidgeting in it. There was this weird fake line it created and i hated it. Once i made this back into one suit, all those issues disappeared. I feel comfortable in it and when i moved around i wasn't fidgeting with it. Next update: the mandarin collar ( i saved my unpicking material pieces) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeHuggerMatt Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 great work!!! Ive only ever seen 1 piece flight suits so dont worry bout that ,if it works and it suits you then go for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Cass, for literally deconstructing this coverall and putting it back together fully modded to fit you, you did an incredible job!!! WOW! And you made it look easy too. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your work as your build progresses. Keep up the excellent work. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Aww thanks guys for the comments! These have made my day and i have the biggest smile 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Cass you did an awesome job, overall patterns are different and it would’ve been difficult to make them two separate pieces But what Stella job hun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 MANDARIN COLLAR TIME! Step one: Put on flight-suit and flick up collar Fun fact its actually too high on me, my chin is up but if i had made a mandarin collar like this i would choke... So i simply pinned and sewed it down 1 cm. After i had sewn it. Then i took my excess pocket material and placed it on the front area of my neck to cover the gap and make it square. All pinned in place All sewed in and Velcro is how i open and close the collar. I haven't sewn the Velcro in place yet as my husband will do that at his workplace ( he has an industrial leather sewing machine at his workplace) so i don't ruin our basic one at home. That is the Mandarin collar all complete!! Quick preview of what's next: My pigskin leather came in!! It is 10FT! 😃 For my Aussies especially those in QLD Gold Coast to Brisbane Area I ordered these from East Coast Leather in MT Cotton. Yes i know i could have driven there rather than order online but i was lazy so sue me 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Working on thigh patches. This is what i ended up with. Would anyone be able to confirm to me that this looks right or what i need to do fix it? As well as been researching the cummerbund and codpiece. I am having trouble sourcing merceriser cotton or "polished" cotton. Would a sateen cotton work for lancer? THANK YOU VERY MUCH 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The CRL for Level 2 states that "Polished cotton or mercerized cotton is preferred. Canvas or duck cloth is not permitted." Emphasis is on "preferred", but not required. As long as the cotton you use for your bund is, again quoting the CRL, "Made of smooth white cotton fabric", such as sateen cotton, then you should be fine. Your riding patch templates look a little bit too big. I did some markup in green to better show some adjustments to the pattern. Also, here some photos (Courtesy of our DL) of Gino's Scout from SWC 2017: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Thanks @Chopper I have no idea why i thought the thigh patches came so far up the back LOL Thank you for the reference photos. Thanks for confirmation on sateen cotton. Very cool to have preferred options rather than must be. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Desert trooper here:) I would recommend the cotton for the bund where you can especially if temps are expected to rise. You're going to have 4 layers on your top half with the flightsuit, vest, bund and armor so that area tends to get rather overheated compared to the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowied_Cass Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Finally found a spare 10 minutes to edit my template for the thigh patches. How do these look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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