jtshoger Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Hey all, I’m finally making my dream a reality, and starting work on my ROTJ Scout Trooper armor set. I’m really excited to get started. Me and one of my friends are gonna start with the helmet soon, which will be 3D printed. As I’m a total noob when it comes to armor making, I would be most grateful for any and all tips and tricks from people here who have printed their own helmets!! Thanks and MTFBWY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Welcome! Have fun!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Hey all, I’m finally making my dream a reality, and starting work on my ROTJ Scout Trooper armor set. I’m really excited to get started. Me and one of my friends are gonna start with the helmet soon, which will be 3D printed. As I’m a total noob when it comes to armor making, I would be most grateful for any and all tips and tricks from people here who have printed their own helmets!! Thanks and MTFBWY! Welcome! We are here to help you achieve your goals! My biggest piece of advice is get the Jesus Salmeron helmet if you are going the 3D route. There are a lot of 3D helmets available out there and many of them do not meet CRL specs. The Jesus Salmeron bucket does for sure. Here are the helmet requirements. I have put in bold the portion where most 3d printed helmets have failed requirements: Helmet Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Lens is black in color and obscures wearer's eyes. Decals are screen accurate: Helmet details created with decals on the originals may not be substituted with actual cutouts, i.e. above the snout area or the trapezoids in the back. If these areas are cut out on the helmet, they must be filled and covered with a decal. Snout greeblie is medium gray and the aerator portion is painted black. Snout recess is painted black. Bolts are either flat or have concave centers Helmet is true to the shape of original screen used helmet. Earholes are cut out -- mesh or paint is not acceptable: Area behind earholes inside the helmet is blacked out, either with paint or tape. No interior white should show from the outside of the helmet when worn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Welcome to the Pathfinders! We're here to help you be successful so don't hesitate to shout out if you need some help. Recommend you starting a WIP thread here: http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/forum/96-biker-scout-wip/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, BikerScout007 said: Welcome! We are here to help you achieve your goals! My biggest piece of advice is get the Jesus Salmeron helmet if you are going the 3D route. There are a lot of 3D helmets available out there and many of them do not meet CRL specs. The Jesus Salmeron bucket does for sure. Here are the helmet requirements. I have put in bold the portion where most 3d printed helmets have failed requirements: Helmet Gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Lens is black in color and obscures wearer's eyes. Decals are screen accurate: Helmet details created with decals on the originals may not be substituted with actual cutouts, i.e. above the snout area or the trapezoids in the back. If these areas are cut out on the helmet, they must be filled and covered with a decal. Snout greeblie is medium gray and the aerator portion is painted black. Snout recess is painted black. Bolts are either flat or have concave centers Helmet is true to the shape of original screen used helmet. Earholes are cut out -- mesh or paint is not acceptable: Area behind earholes inside the helmet is blacked out, either with paint or tape. No interior white should show from the outside of the helmet when worn. Thank you so much! This is very helpful. Is there a good resource y’all use for the decals and/or internal padding? Is there a specific way the internal padding needs to be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Retrofire said: Welcome to the Pathfinders! We're here to help you be successful so don't hesitate to shout out if you need some help. Recommend you starting a WIP thread here: http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/forum/96-biker-scout-wip/ Thank you! I’m not sure how much you know about this, but I found a file on Etsy that claims to follow 501st specs and costs much less than Jesus Salmeron’s files. Can you verify? https://www.etsy.com/listing/1022410970/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-scout?click_key=c8367a02e1bd310b74f10d24fbaede97a3a7675c%3A1022410970&click_sum=b39e972e&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=scout+trooper+stl&ref=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Thank you so much! This is very helpful. Is there a good resource y’all use for the decals and/or internal padding? Is there a specific way the internal padding needs to be done? No, there's no specific requirements for the helmet padding. The original helmets used a 3M hardhat liner. Some people use tactical padding. All you need to do is find something that's comfortable. A lot of folks like to use the trooperbay decals: https://trooperbay.com/star-wars-bikerscout-helmet-decals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, jtshoger said: Thank you! I’m not sure how much you know about this, but I found a file on Etsy that claims to follow 501st specs and costs much less than Jesus Salmeron’s files. Can you verify? https://www.etsy.com/listing/1022410970/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-scout?click_key=c8367a02e1bd310b74f10d24fbaede97a3a7675c%3A1022410970&click_sum=b39e972e&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=scout+trooper+stl&ref=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1 If this is the same helmet that's included as a 3D model, and I'd make sure that it's the same model, then yes, I believe it would be clearable. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1106581891/star-wars-episode-6-rotj-biker-scout?click_key=d088503abb599d45ba6d15cfb28b42738f2b24ea%3A1106581891&click_sum=77faaa7d&ref=shop_home_recs_10&sca=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chopper said: If this is the same helmet that's included as a 3D model, and I'd make sure that it's the same model, then yes, I believe it would be clearable. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1106581891/star-wars-episode-6-rotj-biker-scout?click_key=d088503abb599d45ba6d15cfb28b42738f2b24ea%3A1106581891&click_sum=77faaa7d&ref=shop_home_recs_10&sca=1 I think @MrPoopie was going to check these out and let us know if they meet spec. Let's see if he chimes in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Chopper said: No, there's no specific requirements for the helmet padding. The original helmets used a 3M hardhat liner. Some people use tactical padding. All you need to do is find something that's comfortable. A lot of folks like to use the trooperbay decals: https://trooperbay.com/star-wars-bikerscout-helmet-decals Awesome. Sorry for all the questions, but is PLA allowed for 3D printing? Or does it have to be ABS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Awesome. Sorry for all the questions, but is PLA allowed for 3D printing? Or does it have to be ABS? PLA is fine, but PLA has a tendency to warp in the sun. I'd recommend PETG. Chris the Prop Guy's files seem good to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPoopie Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, BikerScout007 said: I think @MrPoopie was going to check these out and let us know if they meet spec. Let's see if he chimes in They seem to meet CRL Requirements. My main gripe would be with the Chest, it's a little too "egg" shaped instead of being fairly flat on the front and the front "L" sections are a little shallow. Other than that the helmet and armor would meet Lvl 1 CRL requirements. Lvl 2 might work with a different chest and matching back. The TD greeble should also work but the details are a little shallow there too but nothing that should cause a problem that I can see. If anyone wants more specifics just let me know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Awesome. Sorry for all the questions, but is PLA allowed for 3D printing? Or does it have to be ABS? PLA, or as Mickey said, PETG are both fine. I prefer PETG for the reasons he said, but it can be a little more finicky to dial in. To your question, the important point is that the finished product has the appearance of ABS, since that's what they used in the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Chopper said: PLA, or as Mickey said, PETG are both fine. I prefer PETG for the reasons he said, but it can be a little more finicky to dial in. To your question, the important point is that the finished product has the appearance of ABS, since that's what they used in the film. Gotcha. That helps a lot. Any preference/tips for the visor? And what about attaching all the parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 For the visor material, the hobart welding shield is very popular. You can trim and cut it to shape, then hot glue it into the face plate: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VECKRO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 When you say "attaching the parts", do you mean gluing the printed parts together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chopper said: For the visor material, the hobart welding shield is very popular. You can trim and cut it to shape, then hot glue it into the face plate: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VECKRO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 When you say "attaching the parts", do you mean gluing the printed parts together? Awesome! And yes. Like attaching the details to the snout, attaching the front plate of the helmet to the dome, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Gotcha. That helps a lot. Any preference/tips for the visor? And what about attaching all the parts? A lot of the little bits and doodads you are going to need can be researched on the Vendor List Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtshoger Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BikerScout007 said: A lot of the little bits and doodads you are going to need can be researched on the Vendor List Is there a guide somewhere on how to attach these in the helmets? I have no idea where these would go even if I had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, jtshoger said: Is there a guide somewhere on how to attach these in the helmets? I have no idea where these would go even if I had them. That's where the various build threads come in. Besides being the place to start your own, there is a slew of them here: http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/forum/96-biker-scout-wip/ The most popular one is probably this one, though there are plenty more: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I’m just popping in to say hi and welcome! You’ve already connected with the armorers and the detachment leader so your in excellent hands. As you can see, the team is quick to respond and solid in their knowledge. These guys will see you through to attaining that dream of becoming a live action Biker Scout and you’ll find plenty of support from members of the detachment to cheer and support you along the way. As these guys have said, ask any and all questions. We’re all here to help you succeed and look forward to helping you become a Pathfinder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagKekse Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 HY jtshoger I am also new here and I am printing the armor and helmet on my 3D printer as well. I'm already excited about how we're going to do this. Keep your fingers crossed that everything works out as you imagine it. I also bought the armor from Etsy. Exactly the one from your link. But if you ask @MrPoopie you can also get his armor for the 3D printer. Greetings from Austria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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