BikerScout007 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Hey Scouts! Some BIG changes in the CRL concerning the Thermal Detonator. For years we've held to the "rectangle greeblie on the left, prongs up, circle on the right" configuration. This was based on the Speeder bike chase Scout, which for years had the clearest views of the thermal detonator: But thanks to more sources, especially from high definition video, we've seen several different configurations of the thermal detonator and it's not possible to say there is only one way to do it. Now I have always believed that is it perfectly fine for the Detachment to set a standard for the costume that might be contradicted in a split second shot in the film; but in the case of the thermal detonator, they really are all over the place. The only Scout where we can say for certain that the TD is the way we've called for in the past IS the blue screen speeder bike Scout. This was especially clear after compiling the Scoutopedia. (And if you haven't checked it out yet, the link is http://www.501stpathfinders.com/scoutopedia.php) Looking at all the differing configurations of the TD in the film, the Armor Team was able to narrow it down to two rules: "The thermal detonator face has a long side and a short side" AND "The rectangle greeblie goes on the long side and the circle greeblie goes on the short side." Whether the prongs are up or down or the long side is on the left or right, the rules above held true. So today we have changed the CRL to reflect this. Changes in blue below: Thermal Detonator Thermal detonator box with a short gray hose that protrudes evenly from both ends. Hose is either corrugated or wire-wrapped. Hose is painted medium to light gray. Hose is capped off on both sides with two white, circular caps. On either end of hose is a black drill-style belt clip used to attach detonator to main belt. The face of the thermal detonator has a short side and a long side: On the long side is a black rectangular thermal detonator greeblie, either prongs up or prongs down; On the short side is a round black greeblie; If thermal detonator face is symmetrical (sides are even), greeblies may go on either side. Detonator box is gloss white or semi-gloss and may be lightly weathered. Now we realize that a few armor makers have made symmetrical TDs despite them not being that way in the film. The third bullet point allows for this. If you have one of these, your greeblies may go on either side, in either configuration. HOWEVER -- for level 2 we are no longer allowing symmetrical TDs. Your TD must have a long side and a short side. Please see the change to L2 language below: OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Thermal Detonator end caps are concave and not flat. Thermal Detonator face must have a short side and a long side; symmetrical TDs are not permitted. As with all L2 changes, the Level 2 team will allow a few months' grace period for folks in the middle of a Lancer build. If you feel this will be an issue for you, please let the Level 2 team know when you submit. As far as we know, this would affect WTF, Kropserkel and MonCal kits. There may be others, which we will list in the post below: I hope this all makes sense! Any questions, please let me know! EDIT: Here's a handy guide that @Chopper put together. This has been uploaded to the CRL gallery and linked to the CRL text. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 always thought there was a different size on the thermal det, the greeblies give it away. mine is like that attention to detail is the key 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatfoodRob Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Now I'm totally confused . I feel it was better before with a uniform design of greeblie layout . Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 8 hours ago, CatfoodRob said: Now I'm totally confused . I feel it was better before with a uniform design of greeblie layout . Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I get it's a change, but it doesn't need to be confusing. We looked at every detonator we could when compiling our photos for the Scoutopedia and two things stood out: The thermal detonator has a long side and short side: the rectangle goes on the long, the circle goes on the short. It's a pretty simple rule and covers every variant we saw. We are hoping that this rule change will help encourage the few armor makers with symmetrical TDs to fix their designs, as well as allow for the various setups seen in the production. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasfan7 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Thanks for all the attention to detail and caring enough to do all this for the scout. It shows that this detachment cares and has the history and screen imagery down, well done. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treborrabnud Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Hi all, just a quick question on the belt hooks, is there something I should be specifically using for this. I have 2 steel clips but I am struggling to find the black drill clips mentioned here. would these be acceptable? thanks Edited May 11, 2021 by Treborrabnud Found a clip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 These are what many use.https://smile.amazon.com/Bluemoona-Sets-54x25mm-Holster-Sheath/dp/B07MR3CQCC?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The clips in the link above will work, but since you're in the UK, I'm guessing you will want to use a version that's available in-country. Try these, they should be available through Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/micoshop-54x25mm-Holster-Buckles-Hardware/dp/B07KLJK62B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treborrabnud Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Hi all, just a quick question on the belt hooks, is there something I should be specifically using for this. I have 2 steel clips but I am struggling to find the black drill clips mentioned here. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treborrabnud Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Thanks guys. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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