je91 3D Print Scout Build

[je91]

Hey guys,

Recently decided to dive in and build a full scout trooper. Been making various helmets for a while now, just for fun/display but think now is the time to take it further 😂

Helmet and armour will be all 3D printed using Jesus Salmeron's helmet and MrPoopie's files. Soft parts I think I'll try sewing those myself and see where we end up lol

For anyone who cares, I'm printing on an Ender 3 mostly at .2 layer height using Hatchbox white PLA. Let me know if you want more details on settings etc

Been working (sanding and priming and sanding and priming and sanding and priming) the helmet for a few weeks now lol. Getting very close to being ready to actually paint. I'll be using decals I got from Trooperbay. 

Will post more once I start printing the armour (currently printing an Ironman helmet for my nephew lol) and once I start painting the helmet.

😊

[BikerScout007]

Awesome!  Can't wait to see your progress.

[M.J]

G'day Jeremy ...oh the fun part of building!

Wishing you all the best..

[je91]

@M.J @BikerScout007 Thanks guys!

 

 

Armour printing has begun.... One piece down....

[je91]

A little update. Been printing pretty much around the clock. I've done the shoulder bells, biceps, forearms, knees and one hip box. I just bought a CR-10 S5 so that will allow me to print the chest and back armour in one go and not have to slice it up. 

 

Added a bit more filler to some parts on the helmet that weren't quite perfect.

Once I've given that a sand I'll do another coat of filler primer, sand and hopefully that'll be ready for painting.

[je91]

So a pretty big update. I've printed everything except for the chest and back armour and the thermal detonator. I just bought another 3D printer, CR-10 S5. So that'll let me print the chest and back pieces in one go and save a bunch of time. 

I also had a semi disaster with the visor. I had to split it when I printed it to fit on my printer and when I was attaching it to the main helmet.....it split...in 4 places 😭😂 

So once the new printer gets here, I'll reprint it in one piece.

I tried to salvage it by re-glueing and hardening it with some epoxy resin, a bunch of filler and sanding but i can see tiny cracks forming when it flexes which cranks my OCD into meltdown so that won't do lol

A shame cause it was starting to look pretty good.

Also printed @MrPoopie's EC-17 blaster.

 

I did hollow out the scope and insides of the gun with the idea of adding electronics and lenses into the scope eventually.

So I think I'll start sanding and priming some of the armour parts while I wait for the new printer.

[MrPoopie]

Everything is really moving along and look pretty fantastic. I definitely agree about reprinting the visor. Is going to be a stress point whenever you flip it up so make sure it's as strong as possible. Also, make sure to cut out those ear holes for accuracy and t o allow some ventilation. You'd be surprised as how much it helps to allow some airflow through the helmet. Great job all the way around.

[mickeymark34]

Looks fantastic. Is that helmet in the background from “The Mandalorian”?

[je91]

13 hours ago, MrPoopie said:

Everything is really moving along and look pretty fantastic. I definitely agree about reprinting the visor. Is going to be a stress point whenever you flip it up so make sure it's as strong as possible. Also, make sure to cut out those ear holes for accuracy and t o allow some ventilation. You'd be surprised as how much it helps to allow some airflow through the helmet. Great job all the way around.

Thanks! Oh I didn't know about the ear holes. Add that to the list 😅

11 hours ago, mickeymark34 said:

Looks fantastic. Is that helmet in the background from “The Mandalorian”?

Thanks! Yep correct. Another thing I'm trying to finish haha

[je91]

So after a few weeks of down time, I finally got the new printer up and running.

First thing was to print a new visor, all one piece so hopefully no move issues there. I'm almost finished sanding and getting rid of the print lines so onto the final paint job hopefully today.

I tried to print the chest armour piece but need to dial in the printer a little more as the first two tries came loose from the bed. Luckily it was only a couple hours into the print. 

Not a lot more to be printed before I can start really putting it all together 

😀

[oneredstar]

I use one of those 3D printer pens to "weld" my splits back together. Works fabulously!

All that sanding.  Have you tried doing a basic smoothing with a heat gun? For things with large faces like a mask or helmet a heat gun works very well and can save a bunch of sanding.

[je91]

On 1/6/2020 at 2:24 PM, oneredstar said:

I use one of those 3D printer pens to "weld" my splits back together. Works fabulously!

All that sanding.  Have you tried doing a basic smoothing with a heat gun? For things with large faces like a mask or helmet a heat gun works very well and can save a bunch of sanding.

I can actually get rid of the print lines pretty fast its more just making the rest of the surface consistent and smooth but always welcome a way to make it faster haha thanks!

[je91]

So I finished something...😁

Pretty happy with it! I tried to match it to the reference images in another thread as much as possible. Just painted a silver undercoat and then use liquid latex to do the chipping. Hope I didn't go overboard with the weathering lol

 

So I may have messed up the helmet at some point because the face area is meant to line up with the rest of the helmet right? Somehow mine doesn't.

It all lined up before hand and the visor is the same size as the other one so I'm not sure what I've done 😂 I also made the mistake of gluing the visor and face together before I noticed so any tips on separating them would be great haha

[je91]

So I've almost finished the front chest armour

 

I had a question about attaching the tank to the back armour though. I assumed it was just glued on and then the seams puttied over to appear as one piece but looking at images that's definitely not the case lol I've looked a bit through the forums, but is there any tutorial/guide on how to attach it properly? Thanks!

I've also purchased gloves from Wampa Wear and a helmet liner from WS

[MrPoopie]

16 minutes ago, je91 said:

So I've almost finished the front chest armour

 

I had a question about attaching the tank to the back armour though. I assumed it was just glued on and then the seams puttied over to appear as one piece but looking at images that's definitely not the case lol I've looked a bit through the forums, but is there any tutorial/guide on how to attach it properly? Thanks!

I've also purchased gloves from Wampa Wear and a helmet liner from WS

First of all, nice finishing work. That looks mighty smooth and clean.

As for the back. You actually want the seam to show. For the screen used Scouts you can clearly see that the back and tank are to separate parts. You can make this work in two ways. First you can glue the tank to the back without finishing off the seams to give the appearance of two parts but for structural stability they will act as one part. You'll still have the black elastic running from the tank topper rivet as well as on the bottom rivet. Second, you can just place the tank in it's place and actually make the elastic function as it did on the screen used Scouts. Basically the elastic is attached to the top rivet and run on the inside of the back and down to the bottom rivet. With just the right amount of tension on the elastic it will hod the tank in place properly.

Someone around here maybe @BikerScout007 has pictures of this very thing and hopefully they can post them to better show what I'm talking about.

[je91]

4 hours ago, MrPoopie said:

First of all, nice finishing work. That looks mighty smooth and clean.

As for the back. You actually want the seam to show. For the screen used Scouts you can clearly see that the back and tank are to separate parts. You can make this work in two ways. First you can glue the tank to the back without finishing off the seams to give the appearance of two parts but for structural stability they will act as one part. You'll still have the black elastic running from the tank topper rivet as well as on the bottom rivet. Second, you can just place the tank in it's place and actually make the elastic function as it did on the screen used Scouts. Basically the elastic is attached to the top rivet and run on the inside of the back and down to the bottom rivet. With just the right amount of tension on the elastic it will hod the tank in place properly.

Someone around here maybe @BikerScout007 has pictures of this very thing and hopefully they can post them to better show what I'm talking about.

Thanks! Sand and prime, sand and prime, sand and prime 😪

So with the elastic and rivets, does it just pressure fit onto the back armour? Or am I missing something haha

 

I have another question about painting order with the helmet, do I gloss coat the white before painting the black snout area? Then attach decals and then weather?

[MrPoopie]

On 1/26/2020 at 12:39 AM, je91 said:

So with the elastic and rivets, does it just pressure fit onto the back armour? Or am I missing something haha

 

I have another question about painting order with the helmet, do I gloss coat the white before painting the black snout area? Then attach decals and then weather?

yes, If the elastic is properly stretched (not too much) it will just hold itself in place.

Gloss coat the white then paint the black snout area last since it's a flat black. You can attach decals before or after gloss coating. Sometimes it helps to gloss after decals so they are underneath a coat of paint and less likely to get scratched off. If you're using stickers and not decals then put the stickers on last after the gloss coat.

[je91]

Been MIA for a while BUT I finished the helmet, bar the weathering which I'm terrified to do haha. Here's the helmet

 

Next I want to tackle some soft parts to switch up the constant sanding and filler primer-ing lol so I printed out a pattern I found here but I'm a beginner sewer so is there a step my step tutorial posted somewhere? I had a search but mostly it was just "Now I need to to my pouches. And here they are finished" lol if there's anything a little more indepth somewhere that'd be great!

[Aradun]

The following links have material lists, patterns, and/or measurements and are well worth a look as they are the most popular guides and are well done and well detailed.

Pattern for pouches can be found here:

http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/19200-pouch-dimensions/

Guidance on undersuit modes can be found here:

http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/19259-undersuit-mods/

A detailed Boot Tutorial can be found here:

http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/19708-biker-scout-boots-tutorial/

Best practice guide for soft parts can  be found here:

http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/19967-soft-parts-best-practices/

If going for Lancer (a great reference even if your not):

http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/17305-lancer-build-tutorial/

 

[je91]

@AradunFF Thank you! 

So I had a go at making one of the pouches today using the pattern found here

Pretty surprised with how decent it came out. Definitely room for improvement though. I did some things out of order which made it harder but I suspect I'll be making a number of these before I'm satisfied so I think this is a decent place to start from!

[Aradun]

Kudos! That looks pretty darn good for a first trial run! I noticed the seam on the front flap where you stitched your velcro. When I did my pouches I stitched the Velcro tab on the inside portion of the flap before stitching the front and back pieces of the flap together. This created a nice clean surface without any stitching showing on the front flap.

 

 

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[je91]

@AradunFF Thanks! Oh yeh? I just assumed that the stitching on the front was screen accurate so just went along with that haha

[VigilantWookiee]

So I started printing my helmet, and I'm getting this funky texturing on the bottom of everything. I'm using ABS.  Anyone have any suggestions on how I get rid of this?  Is my extruder too hot, too cold?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[MrPoopie]

1 minute ago, VigilantWookiee said:

So I started printing my helmet, and I'm getting this funky texturing on the bottom of everything. I'm using ABS.  Anyone have any suggestions on how I get rid of this?  Is my extruder too hot, too cold?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Do you have any pics. 

[Koenig]

Awesome to see another scout printing his armor. I'm finishing the same helmet but the new file with open ears. For mine I ditched the plastic pegs and set it up for bolts instead.