Rainheart Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Well, brand new at this. Decided to purchase a WTF Rebels Scout back in May and finally have gotten started on it over the past week. Any tips are greatly appreciated! What is everyone using to connect their visor to the helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Saving to attempt to post my WIP pictures once I figure out how posting pictures works on this forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 https://www.amazon.com/Resistant-Classic-Deerskin-Gauntlet-Glove/dp/B00SZ7RHAQ?keywords=Women's+Motorcycle+Leather+Gauntlet+Gloves+Black+small&qid=1540679712&sr=8-9&ref=sr_1_9 Are these acceptable for gloves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilBobTheFish Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, Rainheart said: https://www.amazon.com/Resistant-Classic-Deerskin-Gauntlet-Glove/dp/B00SZ7RHAQ?keywords=Women's+Motorcycle+Leather+Gauntlet+Gloves+Black+small&qid=1540679712&sr=8-9&ref=sr_1_9 Are these acceptable for gloves? Those gloves are not acceptable for basic, but here is a highly recommended pair that many here use. https://www.wampawear.com/product/biker-scout-gloves/ Once you get to five posts, you will be able to access the trading post, so you can look there for spare gloves or anything else you need (like soft parts). As for the helmet, the face plate and visor are glued together. The visor/face plate are then connected to the rest of the helmet on the sides with flat or concave gray bolts for basic and Gray 3M bolts for Lancer (visible bolt head diameter of 22mm). (info taken from CRL http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_Scout_trooper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilBobTheFish Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Aaaaand my bad. I just realized this is a Rebels scout. I am blind. Disregard previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Rainheart said: https://www.amazon.com/Resistant-Classic-Deerskin-Gauntlet-Glove/dp/B00SZ7RHAQ?keywords=Women's+Motorcycle+Leather+Gauntlet+Gloves+Black+small&qid=1540679712&sr=8-9&ref=sr_1_9 Are these acceptable for gloves? They have a visible “H” logo on the gauntlet so they do not meet the basic requirements. To connect the visor to the helmet I used chicago screws. You need to drill out the rear of the resin discs so they fit over the screw. Also be aware the “bumps” on the helmet are not symmetrical, so first position the visor correctly before you mark/drill the holes on the bumps. I’m not sure what the forum limits are for posting images, but you can use an external photo hosting site like imgur to embed them in your post. You need to copy the “bbcode” link to your image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Here's where I'm at as of starting today. I'm going to sand a bit more, waiting on my paint to arrive. Will start gluing the facemask to the visor (or is it better to paint first then glue as you did ScaryGuy?). Also want to work on getting my chest pieces connected. Thank you for the input, I'll go out and get some of those today! Also will caulk my tank today, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I would suggest gluing the facemask to the visor first. This way you are sure everything fits together before you start painting it. So also attach the visor to the helmet with the chicago screws. What filler/bondo are you using? Make sure it is flexible, I had some serious issues with paint starting to crack at the seam, so I had to repaint the entire helmet. Test it by bending the helmet and visor a bit. It will also flex when you put your helmet on or off. You’re making good progress. The plastic is quite thick so it needs more effort to get nice smooth edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 @ScaryGuy I did more sanding today to get those edges smooth. Will continue prior to painting. I used just regular bondo but regretted doing so afterwards. I've sanded most of it off and the seam is mostly DevCon plastic welder at this point. Went out and picked up some Chicago screws so will work on getting that screwed together and sanded correctly prior to painting. Thank you so much for your input and your great WIP thread. I've been going off of that a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Today's progress... I ended up sanding down a lot more of my bucket and used the devcon plastic welder. I have a lot more sanding to do still but am starting to grow frustrated. Am I doing this right? I'm using 220 grit to sand down by hand and then I have 400 to finish. I glued my faceplate to the visor today as well, still curing (using e3000). I also caulked my tank today (for a second time as the first did not go as planned). Looks better but have to clean it up. I sprayed the inside of my bucket black as well and ordered some helmet pads for it. Lastly, I trimmed up my forearms. Think these gloves will work? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FM5SYX8/?coliid=I1ND37CL8IAI92&colid=CIGC1IODUBCY&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it Thanks everyone so far for the feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I feel for you, I know how tedious this work is. The plastic welder is pretty hard so I started with 120 grit paper, then 180, 240 and finally wet sanding with 400. While the plastic welder is great for bonding things together, it's more difficult to use as a filler. It melts the plastic a bit so you need to apply it evenly to avoid creating new gaps. In a video Walt posted on his WTF page he recommended applying a wide band of plastic welder (like 1.5 - 2 inch) over the seam and then sand that down. It might be easer to use a different filler for this, but then I recommend to ask advice from a professional like at a car body shop. Maybe a plastic bumper filler would do the job. But I would test it on a scrap piece of plastic. It needs to adhere to the plastic and still be flexible enough to avoid cracking. I think you need to trim back the edges a bit more, the ident along the edge should be gone. Cut the abs close to the edge then use 120 grit to remove the remaining. Then 180 and maybe 240 to get the edges nice and smooth. I don't see any logos and there aren't many stitch lines, so those gloves look good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 @Scaryguy thank you so much for all your input. It is very appreciated! What I did tonight was sand down all I could of the devcon and applied bondo overlying the parts that weren't flat. I'll work on sanding that down tomorrow to try to get a more even feel. Fingers crossed!! I also trimmed down a lot of the areas that needed a close trim with a fine-grit sanding dremel tool and then took my 220 grit sandpaper to finish. I mostly worked on the front chest piece and the one of the forearms. I have the before and after for comparison. I also trimmed back the visor and faceplate just a bit to get a more even look. How was my gluing of the faceplate to the visor? I tried to get it as even as possible and I didn't think that I could get both sides perfectly even the way I wanted it. Will it be alright for approval like this or do I need to trim the overhanging part of the visor on the right side? Or should I just try to pry it apart and re-glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I wouldn’t use a dremel to sand down the edges, it’s difficult to control. Especially on the side of the chest I can see a lot of variation in the width of the return edge. It’s better to this by hand with a larger piece of sandpaper and/or a sanding block. Far easier to control and it sands a larger area at the same time. I think you can cut back the return edge (overhang) around the visor a bit more. Try to get the width the same on both sides. Compare it with the close up pictures of the helmet in my build thread. The gap between the faceplate and the visor at the top could have been a bit less, and the right side of the faceplate is moved a bit forward compared to the left side (which looks good). I think it should be approvable, but that is for the GML of your local garrison to decide. If you glued it with e6000 (you mention e3000?) it’s fairly easy to take them apart and redo it if you want to. You can use a putty knife to pry them apart (be careful to not use too much force on the plastic). I didn’t show it in my build thread, but when I had to repaint the entire helmet I removed the faceplate from the visor, and I made a cut with a dremel in the reinforcement pieces that held the visor halves together. This way I could move the faceplate closer to the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Thanks to everyone who has contributed thus far! I think I only have one more task, which is to attach the holster to the boot. Any suggestions on how to go about this? I have my boots from Steph. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Rainheart said: Thanks to everyone who has contributed thus far! I think I only have one more task, which is to attach the holster to the boot. Any suggestions on how to go about this? I have my boots from Steph. Thanks! Good to hear you’re almost done! I used two chicago screws to attach the holster. There’s a piece of abs inside to boot to prevent the screws tearing through the vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 2:30 AM, ScaryGuy said: Good to hear you’re almost done! I used two chicago screws to attach the holster. There’s a piece of abs inside to boot to prevent the screws tearing through the vinyl. Thank you! You have been so helpful. I'll be getting that attached once I get the right punch for it. Lastly, what does everyone's helmet look like on the inside so it sits well on their head? Do you recommend the hard hat insert? I have a pretty small head and it is quite uncomfortable at the moment. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rainheart said: Thank you! You have been so helpful. I'll be getting that attached once I get the right punch for it. Lastly, what does everyone's helmet look like on the inside so it sits well on their head? Do you recommend the hard hat insert? I have a pretty small head and it is quite uncomfortable at the moment. Thanks! I think it’s going to be difficult to fit a hard hat liner. The easy way is to use pieces of foam. I didn’t have much room inside the helmet, so there’s just a layer of 3 mm foam in the top of the helmet, and some thicker foam and helmet pads at the front and rear to prevent the helmet tilting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainheart Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 3:18 PM, ScaryGuy said: I think it’s going to be difficult to fit a hard hat liner. The easy way is to use pieces of foam. I didn’t have much room inside the helmet, so there’s just a layer of 3 mm foam in the top of the helmet, and some thicker foam and helmet pads at the front and rear to prevent the helmet tilting. Do you remember where you found the thicker foam at the top? Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryGuy Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Rainheart said: Do you remember where you found the thicker foam at the top? Looks great! That’s noise insulation / sound absorbing foam which I got from a local DIY store. These come in large sheets. I use these as padding inside my transportation boxes, I had some scrap pieces left which I sometimes use as helmet padding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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