netslave Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Neck Seal appears to be a rubbery type of material. Black in color. Apparently, the vertical ribs are part of a bib and aren't part of the shirt. Although, some people are making the neckseal/bib as part of the undershirt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haui Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 It could be something like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The neck seal is brown (as confirmed by someone who wore the costume on the film set), and is part of the whole upper vest. It's not a separate part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haui Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Yes but you will not see if it a single Part or part of the Shirt :-) And so it is more comfortable for me to wear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacho Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 that has got to be one really dark brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netslave Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 The neck seal is brown (as confirmed by someone who wore the costume on the film set), and is part of the whole upper vest. It's not a separate part. Call me crazy, but I don't see brown here. Maybe if we can get a pic from the costume that had a brown neck seal. I do agree that it should be part of the whole, but I've just heard conflicting reports. in the end, it shouldn't matter as long as the look is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Hey, I'm only going from the research that's out there... I'd have put it at Anthracite grey myself... But that's what has been said and I've no reason to contradict it, considering the source. Especially, as part of my 'leather-like' escapades, I have got samples of a very dark brown leatherette (don't ask why!). So it is possible. What I can say is that the lighting at CE3 was atrocious (I was there...) and going by any picture under those conditions is just a road to heartbreak central. Just as an illustrative point on colour and pictures.... Here's an example from my other major passion. The 'Aliens' Colonial Marine. These are the same colours believe it or not. And neither of them look like they do in the flesh (I have daily access to an original). So never trust a computer screen. But feel free to draw what ever conclusions you feel necessary, I've given all the information I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netslave Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 But the neck seal shown here isn't affected by the lighting at ce3. Since the whole neck is in shadow from the harsh, terrible lighting, it's only affected by the flash, which if anything, brightens it up. I'm not doubting your man saw a brown neck seal somewhere, but until we have visual proof, it can't really be used as reference for us. We need to be the source of the information, and prove, with reference material, that we're correct, or we can't require something be a certain way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgul Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Looking the posted pictured, its brown, but its a DEEEEEEP brown, almost like old warn work boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgul Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 You can see it pretty good here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I think its the vertical nature of the ribs fabric thats causing the confusion. It's black. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikinaceous Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In the pic at the top; the brown is quite clear in contrast to the black of the chinstrap and the black webbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainWreck Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 You can see it pretty good here Definitely looks brown to me. Thanks for that pic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainWreck Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So the question now is: if I go with the dark brown will it be approved since the CRL states differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainWreck Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Sorry to keep posting on this. I've been having a discussion on Facebook with some of my friends and one posted this: "Black. The trick is it's a dye issue. There are red based blacks and green/blue based blacks. With bad concentrations of dye, with weathering, or with fading, red based blacks can appear brownish. With graytones, warm grays are brownish, cold grays are blueish." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiro Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sorry to keep posting on this. I've been having a discussion on Facebook with some of my friends and one posted this: "Black. The trick is it's a dye issue. There are red based blacks and green/blue based blacks. With bad concentrations of dye, with weathering, or with fading, red based blacks can appear brownish. With graytones, warm grays are brownish, cold grays are blueish." That actually makes a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Sorry to keep posting on this. I've been having a discussion on Facebook with some of my friends and one posted this: "Black. The trick is it's a dye issue. There are red based blacks and green/blue based blacks. With bad concentrations of dye, with weathering, or with fading, red based blacks can appear brownish. With graytones, warm grays are brownish, cold grays are blueish." We are going to allow dark brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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