Heatshock Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Basic Clearance MUST HAVE * Comply with ALL CRL - Must Have Requirements * NO part of the Kashyyyk (Scout) Trooper uses any part of the Biker Scout costume. Biker Scout parts are NOT ACCEPTABLE for use on the Kashyyyk Trooper. * Weathering is STRONGLY encouraged, layered or topical. PAINT RECOMMENDATIONS - HARD ARMOUR * metallic undercoat; silver or chrome recommended. Can be applied layered style or topically. * amount is dependent on individual troopers. * Krylon khaki tan for the base color/custom mix available - check with armourers for samples * Polly scale, Panzer Olive green F505113/Humbrol no 78 * Tamiya Color, Flat Earth (brown) FX-52 item # 81359 * black/grey/white misting as appropriate **** previously mentioned 'yellow' is NO LONGER part of the paint scheme **** ARMOUR * Chest plate - 2 black straps connecting chest and back plates. - flush join at the sides - THE OVERLAPPING DETAIL WAS ONLY SEEN ON 3D RENDERS Back plate with tank. - Tank and back plate must be one piece - Tank must have top greeblie - Tank top greeblie is BLACK * 2 shoulder bells * 2 bicep pieces - left bicep armor must have grey strap and specific greeb - all painted grey - right bicep armor must have greeblies painted grey * 2 forearm pieces - with 2 straps for each piece of armor. - straps are grey in colour * Cod piece. - triangular in shape - covered in cloth and painted in camo pattern to match armour * 2 pieces of knee armour - specific black/dark grey straps for each piece of knee armour. * 2 complete shin armor pieces that are seamless. - 2 khaki or white belts on each shin - Black buckle and a smaller clip on each belt. * 2 pieces of boot armor - 4 black rings , 2 for each boot. - 1/2 inch "O" ring HELMET * Fan-made helmet * visor with reflective green lens * full set of greeblies - 2 breathers, triangle piece, five bar snout piece and visor bolts * rectangular slot on the visor measuring 2.5 to 2.75 inches long and 0.75 inches wide - centred in the middle of the visor * note on paint - the INSIDE of the visor is painted the same base colour as the armour NOT black WEAPON * DC-15 long or short rifle. SOFT GOODS * Jacket and pants or jumpsuit with the correct (or as close as possible camo.) Can be dyed DMP (british) desert camo. Dye them brown and black to get them close. - Leg pouches measuring 7 inches by 5 inches with a biased cut flap on the outside - placed in the correct position - off-grey/tan or oatmeal riding patch on inner thigh made of leather or suede * Cummerbund. No molle vest or variant. - appearance of 2 tones of grey, whether the effect is achieved with weathering or in actual actual construction - appearance should suggest a darker base with lighter vertical stripes - midsection belt that goes around the cummerbund. - 2 vertical black stripes to go on cummerbund belt on the front - 16 pouches of accepted size and shape (note different flap configurations) + 2 long front pouches + 2 small rectangle front pouches + 8 small side pouches + 2 long back pouches. + 2 large rectangle back pouches. - pouches are either cloth covered and painted with a khaki base+camo pattern or covered with multi-cam cloth * belt and buckle - grey with black insets - buckle - dark grey/gunmetal grey * 2 drop boxes with 4 straps hung from belt and belt buckle - are either cloth covered and painted with camo pattern or covered with multi-cam cloth * gauntlet-style gloves - black leather to the wrists and brown gauntlet sections - 2 rubber greeblies (grey or taupe) on brown leather gauntlet part of the glove - grey belt around the wrist FOOTWEAR * Boots. - soles have SIMILIAR curved shape in between the heel and sole - main body of boot is beige coloured - similar to Biege Desert Military Boots - khaki or tan soles. Required * Balaclava to wear underneath helmet MAY HAVE (Optional but acceptable) * Binoculars, "Star Wars" style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Level II clearance ie 41st Elite Status this is mostly similar to above, but incorporates the 3D render information MUST HAVE * Comply with ALL CRL - BASE Must Have Requirements * NO part of the Kashyyyk (Scout) Trooper uses any part of the Biker Scout costume. Biker Scout parts are NOT ACCEPTABLE for use on the Kashyyyk Trooper. * Weathering is STRONGLY encouraged, layered or topical. PAINT RECOMMENDATIONS - HARD ARMOUR * Chrome undercoat – layered or applied topically, must be weathered * Krylon khaki tan for the base color/custom mix available - check with armourers for samples * Polly scale, Panzer Olive green F505113/Humbrol no 78 * Tamiya Color, Flat Earth (brown) FX-52 item # 81359 * black/grey/white misting as appropriate **** previously mentioned 'yellow' is NO LONGER part of the paint scheme **** ARMOUR * Chest plate - 2 black straps connecting chest and back plates. - overlapping on the sides, back plate OVER the front Back plate with tank. - Tank and back plate must be one piece - Tank must have top greeblie - Tank top greeblie is BLACK * 2 shoulder bells * 2 bicep pieces - left bicep armor must have grey strap and specific greeb - all painted grey - right bicep armor must have greeblies painted grey * 2 forearm pieces - with 2 separate grey straps for each piece of armor. * Cod piece. - triangular in shape - covered in cloth and painted in camo pattern to match armour * 2 pieces of knee armour - specific black/dark grey straps for each piece of knee armour. * 2 complete shin armor pieces that are seamless. - 2 khaki or white belts on each shin - Black buckle and a smaller clip on each belt. * 2 pieces of boot armor - 4 black rings , 2 for each boot. - 1/2 inch "O" ring HELMET * Fan-made helmet * visor with reflective green lens * full set of greeblies - 2 breathers, triangle piece, five bar snout piece and visor bolts * rectangular slot on the visor measuring 2.5 to 2.75 inches long and 0.75 inches wide - centred in the middle of the visor * note on paint - the INSIDE of the visor is painted the same base colour as the armour NOT black WEAPON * DC-15 long or short rifle. SOFT GOODS * Jacket and pants or jumpsuit with the correct (or as close as possible camo.) Can be dyed DMP (british) desert camo. Dye them brown and black to get them close. - Leg pouches measuring 7 inches by 5 inches with a biased cut flap on the outside - placed in the correct position - oatmeal riding patch on inner thigh made of leather or suede * Cummerbund. No molle vest or variant. - appearance of 2 tones of grey, whether the effect is achieved with weathering or in actual construction - appearance should suggest a darker base with lighter vertical stripes - khaki/tan weathering encouraged - midsection belt that goes around the cummerbund. - 2 vertical black stripes to go on cummerbund belt on the front - 16 pouches of accepted size and shape (note different flap configurations) + 2 long front pouches + 2 small rectangle front pouches + 8 small side pouches + 2 long back pouches. + 2 large rectangle back pouches. - pouches are either cloth covered and painted with a khaki base+camo pattern or covered with multi-cam cloth * belt and buckle - grey with black insets - buckle - dark grey/gunmetal grey * 2 drop boxes with 4 straps hung from belt and belt buckle - are either cloth covered and painted with a khaki base+camo pattern or covered with multi-cam cloth * gauntlet-style gloves - black leather to the wrists and brown gauntlet sections - 2 rubber greeblies (taupe) on brown leather gauntlet part of the glove - grey belt with buckle around the wrist FOOTWEAR * Boots. - Body of boot is white - khaki or tan soles. - Soles modified to have arch and sole detail matching specific style of boot / accurate replica / actual found item Required * Balaclava to wear underneath helmet MAY HAVE (Optional but acceptable) * Binoculars, "Star Wars" style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Arnt some of these updates what should be in the standard CRL to match screen grabs? To correct what is already wrong, Im no Kashyyyk know all so, only going by what ive read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ive had a nudge asking for all CRLs to be completed so we need to get busy with this guys please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Arnt some of these updates what should be in the standard CRL to match screen grabs? To correct what is already wrong, Im no Kashyyyk know all so, only going by what ive read Yes. It corrects the colors of specific items that were previously listed with the correct colors, as seen in the movie. (Screen grabs.) The modified CRL looks good. Nate, ya out there? Any other comments, suggestions, or objectons from anyone else? Let's finish this thing up, already! Basic is for what's seen in the movie. Plain and simple. The revised CRL corrects the colors. Not much else. The level II style is based on just a few differences from the basic style, and is not required at all for approval. And, once again, all currently approved Kashyyyk Troopers do not have to make changes in their armor or colors. After the finalization of the proposed "corrected" CRL for the Kashyyyk Trooper is active, that is what will be accepted for approval. If current Kashyyyk Troopers wish to update their KST's to match the new CRL, they can do that as well. On a related note... I also hope that the GML's around the globe will follow these CRL's when deciding on an approval for a new Kashyyyk Trooper, instead of options or parts that "look good enough." Isn't that what that one thread is for....to show your pics that will be sent in for approval, for suggestions on what might not be correct? That's what we are here for, people. "Pre-clearance Completed Costume Show-offs" http://forum.bikersc...hp?showforum=97 Although there are no new KST's yet. The build threads are fine, too. But, when you get all of the puzzle put together, post up some pics in the above link, for review. Nate! Hey Nate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 That's what this thread is for. Discussed by the people who have an interest, condensed from compromises made. The so called high res screen grab has turned out to be a high res 3d render or at least an enhanced view of the screen shot - so can no longer be used as screen seen. Lots of the details were actually identified on the 3d renders were part of basic requirement in the 2012 CRL, so can no longer be considered screen seen and have been moved to level II. Lots of the arguments have be about colour and shades - and we can argue to the cows come home and not everyone will always agree with everyone else, but the above is the concensus we had agreed on. As far as I am concerned, this is what has been discussed and agreed to by consensus. Not everyone is gonna agree with all that has been said, but is the best compromise we have agreed to. Level I is based on screen seen. Level II on the 3D renders like other clone CRLs - it adds details not seen on screen just due to the nature of the technology. It is similar to the ATAT helmet argument - Level I is screen seen ie white, Level II is actual prop ie grey Boot shape has always been a contention - so we have, as always compromised and allowed for modded boots rather than insisting everyone gets a replica. True replica or found boot is Level II. Its not a big group, and the Kashyyyks dont get as much traffic through here - just cos its a rare costume. We did have a long consultation process the last time, as the costume was being developed and people had to build and paint and show before we could agree on how something was done. Much is the same at the moment. As yet, no one person will have all the basic requirements as we speak - I am modding my gear up and should be done in a week or 2. MB armour is no longer being made, and SC armour is currently being finished. We arent based on a movie thats been out 30 years, and theres lot to disagree about, but I am happy to publish as is above. But as always - we will grow and adapt as time goes by. The above format is what was handed in to you last time Marcel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yeah, definately not a lot of traffic. But, we do what we can. And like you said, we compromised and came up with what appears to be a good CRL. (Yes,it is based on what we could find in the freeze-frames.) It's still hard to do a CRL for a CGI character that doesn't get a whole lot of screen time. "Always on the go..." I'm done. END OF LINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Arnt some of these updates what should be in the standard CRL to match screen grabs? To correct what is already wrong, Im no Kashyyyk know all so, only going by what ive read nope - there was 1st the arguement about what constituted an actual screen grab then dissecting blurry images which where shaded and shadowed inconsistently - and yes those were off Blue Ray grabs! lots of the nitty gritty details in Level II were included in the 2012 basic CRL, but have now been separated there was never ever a wrong or right, it is opinion. Not having an actual physical item makes these CRLs a nightmare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Not having an actual physical item makes these CRLs a nightmare! Exactly what I've said many times. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 updated metallic undercoat options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Where are we on this guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I was under the impression, when I last talked with him about this, that Nate had submitted the final CRL to you. Perhaps you should contact him, as I haven't heard from him in awhile, here on BSN. Sorry about this, Marcel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 nope - I sent you the document mate but yep want me to submit again. Not sure how its done mate; who does the actual uploading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai88 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Sorry for resurrecting this. Just curious; was there no mention of the helmet symbol on the bottom left visor shroud? Also the vent stripes below the green visor--which look to me diagonal and not vertical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferra Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hi Barry, The description of said details has indeed been left out, however they are present in the example pictures: https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CB_Kashyyyk_trooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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