Two Versions?

[Guest MikeC23]

 

Looking at the Biker Scout Gloves, Reference Photos thread, Mike mentions....

 

 

For the film, the Espree gloves had the straps and zippers removed and the beige suede was dyed black.

 

....now, aren't there two different versions of this style of Espree glove?

 

From what I've come across, there's the shorter version with the beige suede, and a version with a longer gauntlet that has black suede on the fingers, both are authentic Espree's and both are from the same time-frame.

 

Does that sound accurate?

 

If so, how and where was it confirmed that they used the version with the shorter gauntlet and beige suede, finger patches and not the longer version with the black suede patches?

 

I'm not challenging the accuracy of the original statement, I'm just curious...

 

 

 

[Guest MikeC23]

Really? Almost 50 people and no one knows?

 

Am I totally off base here?

[Dart]

I guess it's possible. But I think the shorter ones were used in the movie but with the tan bits dyed black.

 

I remember someone here comparing some original Esprit gloves that had the black bits and they were larger than the SA gloves, which are purported to be the same as the screen-used ones.

 

 

[bluecyclone]

Looking at the Biker Scout Gloves, Reference Photos thread, Mike mentions....

 

 

 

 

....now, aren't there two different versions of this style of Espree glove?

 

From what I've come across, there's the shorter version with the beige suede, and a version with a longer gauntlet that has black suede on the fingers, both are authentic Espree's and both are from the same time-frame.

 

Does that sound accurate?

 

If so, how and where was it confirmed that they used the version with the shorter gauntlet and beige suede, finger patches and not the longer version with the black suede patches?

 

I'm not challenging the accuracy of the original statement, I'm just curious...

 

Do you have any reference photos?

[Chex]

Just in case someone wanted to compare a bit.

 

My esprit gloves

My SA before I sold them.

 

My Esprit are the ones with the tan fingers which have been dyed black. LOVE those gloves too.

[TB-7076]

I also have the Esprit gloves with originally tan suede dyed black. For basic and even advanced requirements it is not

important weahter the gauntlet is 1/4 " smaller or longer than the other model or dyed or originally black...

Those are details for ultra screen "accurazies" and of course interesting to know but not that relevant as long as the

features are spot on. If you got lucky to get your hands on esprit gloves matching the model specifics

which is hard enough I wouldn't bother at all. It will be still more acurate than the replica available.

 

Here are mine as they came and dyed (now with time more greyish):

[Guest MikeC23]

Do you have any reference photos?

 

 

 

[TB-7076]

Those are probably just another generation of the same base pattern. During my quest for appropriate substitutes I came across several different manufacturers using similar patterns and also different generations of these.

 

What might be a problem with these is the more visible artifacts removing the velcro and branding.

I've experienced this with another type of glove as well. But even considering the minor trade offs it is a better choice than

the replica as that one doesn't have a real extension flap underneath the zipper. It only has a border there creating the

illusion as if there was something indicated by the V shape. Still there it doesn't achieve the depth of the original functional counterpart.

[Guest MikeC23]

The first set of gloves I posted, with the brown suede and shorter gauntlets are the Espree, right?

And the other gloves with the black suede and longer gauntlets are the Esprit?

 

It looks like, to me, from this MOM picture, that the longer Esprits are more SA then the shorter Esprees....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is there are difference between the Esprit and Espree?

 

[TB-7076]

I don't know what Espree is - I think that was an artificial name for the replicas before they were sold by SA on ebay.

The one you describe as having shorter gauntlets is the screen accurate one. When you put it on it you will realize they

fit quite close and therefore appear longer than laying flat on a desk.

 

It's also a perspective thing and the body frame. See my scout costume with original esprit gloves versus screenshots.

Sometimes mine appear longer sometimes shorter depending on movement, wrinkling and perspective.

 

[Guest MikeC23]

Oh, okay, I gottcha'.

 

Thanks for clearing that up, Philipp, I appreciate it.

[Guest MikeC23]

Ooops..never mind.

On closer inspection, what I thought I saw, I didn't see.

[TB-7076]

Always glad to help

[bluecyclone]

Yes, thanks Philipp.