TB-2677 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 So here are the pictures you wanted. What do you think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Are there any news for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Andreas, someone will hopefully get back to you soon with a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Andreas, someone will hopefully get back to you soon with a reply. Thank you. I am still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hi Andreas, We noticed that the seam on the back of your boots fold over in the same direction. They need to mirror each other. You will also need to add the additional cutouts to the soles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Hi Andreas, We noticed that the seam on the back of your boots fold over in the same direction. They need to mirror each other. You will also need to add the additional cutouts to the soles. Hi Bob, please post some detail pictures. Than i will see what i can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hi all, here are my modify boots. What i have done? 1. Now the boots folder like mirror each other. I change the left boot in the right way. 2. I made additional cutouts to the soles. Please let me know about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbasdead Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I don't think Bob will be available until tomorrow, but thank you for your patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 I don't think Bob will be available until tomorrow, but thank you for your patience. Thank you for your answer. I am still waiting hopefull . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Are there any news for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecyclone Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Discussing now, please stand by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Discussing now, please stand by. Thank you for reply. Now, stand by . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi Andreas, We've been talking about your boots at length. You've been great for making all of the necessary modifications so far. Unfortunately, we feel the base/sole of the boot is not quite right. Since you are using a different boot than the other Lancers, the sides of the sole are different enough to detract from the rest of the Lancers. Rather than opening up a problem for all Lancers (and for us staff) we'd prefer if you can change the boot base to a more accurate base. Above, you can see the boot on the left has no additional texture or tread, but your boot has this at the front and the heel of the boot. If you have questions, please ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi Andreas, We've been talking about your boots at length. You've been great for making all of the necessary modifications so far. Unfortunately, we feel the base/sole of the boot is not quite right. Since you are using a different boot than the other Lancers, the sides of the sole are different enough to detract from the rest of the Lancers. Rather than opening up a problem for all Lancers (and for us staff) we'd prefer if you can change the boot base to a more accurate base. Above, you can see the boot on the left has no additional texture or tread, but your boot has this at the front and the heel of the boot. If you have questions, please ask. Hi Bob, first thank you for reply. Can you tell me how can i make my boots in your way? Second can you give me shop-links with the right boots. Please help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sure thing, Andreas! Some people use either one of these boots. I'm not sure what is available in Germany, however... http://www.payless.com/store/product/detai...splayName=Mens+ http://www.payless.com/store/product/detai...splayName=Mens+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sure thing, Andreas! Some people use either one of these boots. I'm not sure what is available in Germany, however... http://www.payless.com/store/product/detai...splayName=Mens+ http://www.payless.com/store/product/detai...splayName=Mens+ Thank you for the links. Do you have any idea to rework my aktual boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi all. After your discussing about my boots i have a question. In here Bob showed me his reference boot like this. But when you look at the original there are no seams on top of the front. This is a part you can see it. Why is it so verry important to close the additional texture on my boots. Thank you for answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi Andreas, I am the one who posted the reference picture you show with the thread on the sole. You are correct in your observation that the screen used boots do not have a sewn seam on them at the front. As you can see here on the screen used under-boot pre-vinyl, there is none: What you will notice though, is a ridge and a visible sole section around the bottom of the boot. When looking for an alternative for the CRL, specifically for the Lancer specification, the command staff had to decide on a style of boot to specify that was still available on the market as well as easily available throughout the world. What they came up with was a standard construction work boot like this: As you can see, this boot has a similar sole and tread pattern and to the original screen used hiking boot I added a picture of above. The ridge on the edge of the sole allows the vinyl at the bottom of the modified biker scout boot to sit flush and even along the bottom of the boot. This smoothness is key to the clean look of the biker scout boots. The tactical boot you are using, has taller sole edges, no sharp sole ridge edge and a more rounded tread and sole section. On your boot as pictured here, you can see that the way the sole is shaped on the tactical boot causes the vinyl to not sit flush with the bottom of the boot body and top of the tread: This causes the bottom of your boot along the sole to look a little sloppy and causes it to bulge at points. The construction work style boot chosen for the specification for the biker scout boots is by no means a perfect boot for usage on the biker scout boots, but it is a best, available fit for the design and standards which the Pathfinders must set for the costume. It is easier to have an under boot body that is slightly different than the no longer available screen used boot which allows for conformity among all biker scouts. If the Pathfinder command staff who decide on the CRLs for both Pathfinder and Lancer were to start allowing boots that do not have the same sole or tread, and do not allow the vinyl to sit cleanly at the edges of the boot like the screen used boots do, then there would be little conformity amongst biker scouts, especially Lancers. You shouldn't have trouble finding a construction style work boot with a beige sole and similar tread/sole pattern in Europe. There is a scout in the UK (4505Marcel) who purchases the correct boots over in Europe. If you are unable to find the correct boot, perhaps he can point you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Andreas, as an alternative: You may want to locate a flexible filling putty to fill in the grooves. Think of something like Bondo, except one that is flexible enough to take the movement of the boot sole. I do not know what is in Germany, but if you know anyone who works in an auto body repair shop or can talk to someone there for a recommendation, that would be my suggestion. With a flexible putty, you would fill in the grooves, allow it to dry completely, then sand smooth, then paint over it in a color that matches the rest of the sole. I am personally not aware of anyone who has done this so I cannot say whether or not the results you would get would look seamless, so please make a note of this. The alternative, I think, would be to buy a new pair of boots and rebuild them. The choice is yours to make. Good luck whichever way you decide! (Thanks, Jay!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi all, i have found 2 boots here in germany. Here my first option And here my second option What do you think about this? I think the 1st shall be o.k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'm not sure those will work. They need to match as close as possible as: The gap in the tread on those two boots are two far in between. If you can add the additional tread grooves, it might work, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 At last we only talk about my boots. Is it true that my rest Biker is O.K. for Lancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The rest of your gear is very nice. The last remaining detail is your boots, correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-2677 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Now i find this boots on eBay. Are they o.k. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecyclone Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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