TB-1019 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 As many of you may know, for the last few years the 501st Legion has been undertaking a project to codify all of the costume requirements for each of the costumes approved by the club. At the beginning of the process, each detachment staff was asked to prepare basic costume requirements (and some optional accessories) and submit them to the Legion Membership Officer (LMO) for review. This list of requirements was called the Costume Resource Library, or CRL. In mid-to late 2007 we did this; taking the basic costume recommendations we had listed here and tightening up the language and clarifying any areas that needed it. Once we had a working draft we forwarded it to the Legion Membership Officer, where it sat as they collected CRL's from all the other detachments. Fortunately, we here at BSN had the foresight to start thinking about these issues and the fortune of having so many dedicated members of the detachment to help us come up with a list that was both comprehensive-- attaining a high level of accuracy and faithfulness to the canon costume-- and attainable by even the most casual aspiring member. Our submission was completed early and accurately. In 2008 the new incoming LMO made completion of the CRL project her number one priority and throughout the year other detachments finally submitted their own lists and the LMO was able to begin the work of reviewing them. Once that was done, the Scout CRL went to the Legion Commanding Officer for final tweaking and formatting, then posted to the Legion Council for ratification. The Scout Trooper CRL's were approved late last week and posted to the 501st Legion's online costume requirements listing, the link to which you will find at the bottom of this post. As you will see, other costumes whose basis are found on the biker scout were included in the Scout Trooper CRL, so do not be alarmed. That and other inconsistencies, omissions and rearrangements have been visited upon the document that was originally submitted. There are a number of issues regarding this CRL that we in the detachment staff will discuss with the incoming LMO. We in the Pathfinders administrative staff would like to thank all of you who helped to pull the original requirements together. Each and every one of you who found a new way to assemble a new boot, to those who produced newer sets of armor or soft parts had a hand in this. For that, we would like to thank you. Hopefully soon we will have a CRL all scouts can be proud of. Please note that the CRL lists the very basic costume requirements for membership in the 501st Legion costuming club. New applicants starting from March 1, 2009 forward will be held to these requirements. For now, those of you who are already members do not need to worry if your costume does not meet every requirement on the CRL. Your GML should allow you a reasonable amount of time to carry out improvements to your costume before your membership may be considered for deactivation. You will need to consult with your GML and unit commanding officer to find out what this time period will be. Please do not ask us. We do not know. Although it is the club's goal to try to standardize costume quality across the entire membership, it is probably not realistic to believe all units (be they outposts, squads or garrisons) will bother to audit their members' costumes to ensure they meet these new basic standards. Whether they do or not, all we here in the Pathfinders did was create the CRL that your GML will consult to determine membership eligibility. Also please be reminded that the Pathfinders own Lancer standards are not set up by the 501st Legion and they are set up by this detachment. The Lancer standards use the CRL as a foundation from which a higher, OPTIONAL, set of costume requirements are derived. Please read our Lancer Costume Requirements here for more information. LINK TO THE SCOUT TROOPER CRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks for posting that Jay. I've got some catching up to do with Detachment stuff, so I'll let you keep everyone up to date on this. I'm glad this is finally done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecyclone Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splat762 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Good info, came in the nick of time to complete my costume.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbungle Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 how come some have been approved for a kashyyyk scout when the 501st have not set the requirements yet????? http://www.501stlegion.org/members/display...mp;costumeID=15 http://www.501stlegion.org/members/display...mp;costumeID=36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Because it still qualifies as a clone trooper. They have the designation in place, but I'm trying to get that changed. I'm in talks with the CT detachment leader about the KASHYYYK trooper. Right now, either a Saleucami trooper or a Kashyyyk trooper will get the CB designation. Once Torment and I have something hammered out, we'll approach the LMO about the change in designation as well as home of that costume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journeymanprotector Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I didn't see any stipulations for mods to the Rubies/DP helmets, did I miss them or have they been relaxed? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbungle Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Because it still qualifies as a clone trooper. They have the designation in place, but I'm trying to get that changed. I'm in talks with the CT detachment leader about the KASHYYYK trooper. Right now, either a Saleucami trooper or a Kashyyyk trooper will get the CB designation. Once Torment and I have something hammered out, we'll approach the LMO about the change in designation as well as home of that costume. are you guys thinking of change the home from here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Nope. I've already started discussing this very thing with Torment, the CT Detachment Leader. Right now, CTN points anyone interested in the Kashyyyk Trooper over here. Typically, if a detachment has history of developing the costume and there's no argument about it, the detachment will become the home of that costume. I'm also discussing with him the chance of moving the animated scout trooper over here, too. But since it's not a Legion-approved costume (yet) it's still in the works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I didn't see any stipulations for mods to the Rubies/DP helmets, did I miss them or have they been relaxed? Phil *sigh* The CRLs were reformatted, reorganized, and in part, rewritten so that all of the CRLs would have the same structure and wording. In some cases, they "dumbed down" a lot of the requirements, something we've been discussing this week in the DL forum. Once we get somewhere solid, either Jay or I will let you guys know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-1019 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 It looks like the DP/Rubies modification language we put on there was pushed down from a requirement to something that is "recommended". I'm not happy with it and it may be something we take up with the LMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I agree Jay. Once Thomas comes back from vacation and assuming he's ratified by the Legion Council, we'll let him know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbungle Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Nope. I've already started discussing this very thing with Torment, the CT Detachment Leader. Right now, CTN points anyone interested in the Kashyyyk Trooper over here. Typically, if a detachment has history of developing the costume and there's no argument about it, the detachment will become the home of that costume. I'm also discussing with him the chance of moving the animated scout trooper over here, too. But since it's not a Legion-approved costume (yet) it's still in the works... moving the recon scout here would not be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Recon scout? Are you referring to the ARF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbungle Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 yeah, my bad. the arf. what is with these names??? arf, barc are you sensing a pattern here?????? what is the next one the woof trooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 As long as it's not the YAPYAP trooper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam8114 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 yeah, my bad. the arf. what is with these names??? arf, barc are you sensing a pattern here?????? what is the next one the woof trooper? Well we all know Lucas loves his dogs. Remember that Indiana was the name of his real life dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masterson Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Is it bad to point out a typo in the CML? Chest/back plates white (for Scout) or black (for Commando) scout breastplate (with dark grey badge stripe on right breast) and scout back plate (with "bullet tank", topped with a black resin topper piece) connected to each other on the sides and over each shoulder with white (for Scout) or black (for Commando) elastic. For Commando, the tank must have a pinstripe and anywhere from 4 to 6 "rank stripes" on right side of the tank.Shouldn't that read: "For Scout"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Nope. They FOR SOME STRANGE REASON combined the Biker Scout and Storm Commando CRLs together. One of the many headaches rolling out with the CRL project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-1019 Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Having had time to digest the debacle that has become our CRL, I have re-written my initial post. See if you can spot the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masterson Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Having had time to digest the debacle that has become our CRL, I have re-written my initial post. See if you can spot the changes. Changes noted. Trying to digest the material with a generous portion of tums. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA SCOUT Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 so the black scout trooper ( COMMANDO ) armor is now acceptable? this might be my next project if thats the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-1019 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 The commando is more than just a guy in black scout armor. The proper costume has some stormtrooper parts mixed in, plus a few unique parts for good measure. You'll need to visit the 501st SpecOps Detachment for more info. That is their baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Copy what Jay said. For SOME REASON, the Storm Commando/Shadow Scout got mixed in with the Biker Scout's CRL. Which, as Jay pointed out, is a slightly different beast than the Biker Scout. Jay and I will be working on fixing that with the LMO, Thomas Spanos. So we'll let you know once the CRL is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-1019 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yeah, we'll need to put on our hip waders and our hard hats to fix that mess of a CRL they stuck us with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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