BARC backplate and Tank details

[pghfett]

I agree with AS - the tank looks a bit too long.

 

I completely agree and noticed this as well . It's much easier to remove clay than to put it on

I have "blown up" a side view of the tank to size today and have begun making the reduction on the tanks length. Using this method will give me the exact profile I need to sculpt to.

Also the rear back plate, below the main tank, "swoops" down gently in the middle if any of you noticed, this will be copied to. Also, the tank angles downward toward this point as well and this will be sculpted in too.

 

Mad, you can clearly see the "tank greeblie" bottom curve must, and will be, adjusted as you posted above to match the natural curve of the sculpts back plate, I'm sure everyone can visualize the final product .

 

ArmyScout, the rear tank is quite large, you might as well start now figuring how to pull this monstrosity LOL

 

Updated pic will be fourth coming soon of all the adjustments.

~Mike

[pghfett]

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[Army Scout]

Much better I think it is a bout an inch to deep. Can you take a pic with the tank detail on?

 

You may have fixed my issue.

[pghfett]

Much better I think it is a bout an inch to deep. Can you take a pic with the tank detail on?

 

You may have fixed my issue.

 

Right,

the top portion of the back plate where it meets the tank will be changed and worked more, it's not done yet. The curve on the greeblie plate will be changed as well. This will be done last, I have not worked on this at all, just the tank. I want to get the tank roughed in first.

[TB6675]

I don't see much diffrence from the barc back armor as compared to the armor i got from Studio Creations except fot the fins on the tank riser. but i Love my SC armor so i won't alter that

[AnAnAG]

Again you are awesome. As always it's the small details that become the most cumbersome and time consuming

[TB5994]

 

erm i'm confused

 

those are just two biker backs, slightly differing in scale.....

[pghfett]

There are some major differences overall with the BARC chest and back plate. Although it may appear other wise, if you were to sulpt the armor and stare at reference pics there are many noticable differences.

Here is what I've noticed...

 

1. The "dip" on the back plate below the rear of the neck. It is very deep on BS armor but shallow on the BARC.

2. The rear BARC tank is much, much larger than an accurate BS tank.

3. There is no raised ridge at the bottom the the rear back on the BARC

4. Greeblie panel is completely different

5. Barc armor rides higher towards the shoulders giving the tank an angled look.

6. The sides where both the chest and back meet are wider

7. The BARC chest plate has a severe angle on the bottom and appears to be "cut short" or rides higher, just under the pec muscles.

8. The BARC chest crease and line work is different as well.

 

There are a lot more things I've noticed as well but the bottom line for me is the totality of all these small and subtle differences all add up, IMO, when shooting for an accurate BARC costume.

you can really notice these differences when both costumes are pictured side by side.

[TB5994]

Oh I agree, they are "similar" from a glance at distance, but massively different side by side.

 

What confused me was the photo of 2 biker scout back plates and humps that TB6675 posted. I hope he hasnt been sold simply a smaller biker back plate, marketed as a barc peice!

[Army Scout]

Oh I agree, they are "similar" from a glance at distance, but massively different side by side.

 

What confused me was the photo of 2 biker scout back plates and humps that TB6675 posted. I hope he hasnt been sold simply a smaller biker back plate, marketed as a barc peice!

 

I know one maker who made Scout armor for the "larger" troopers. Maybe thats on of his chest/backs.

 

Chris

[TB5994]

its not just my eyes though, the one on the right is deffinatly smaller, but still a scout pack.

[pghfett]

Tank Details - still unknown detail as seen here -

 

Any sugestions ? Otherwise I'll improvise

 

Unknown Tank detail

[TB-7076]

Hi, this what I think about it. The grey spot is there but I think it's too solid in tone to be some sort of type. As for the detail on the tank I think it's a recessed line. Like the socuts you would expect that the tank would have either a storage or maintenance hatch which should be indicated by these lines. Of course it also could be just a decoration to break up the monotone look of the back. Here in EP III the line is very thin and weather it is texture or bumpmap - I think it was meant to be recessed of some sort.

 

[pghfett]

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[Acrylikhan]

Hi, this what I think about it. The grey spot is there but I think it's too solid in tone to be some sort of type. As for the detail on the tank I think it's a recessed line. Like the socuts you would expect that the tank would have either a storage or maintenance hatch which should be indicated by these lines. Of course it also could be just a decoration to break up the monotone look of the back. Here in EP III the line is very thin and weather it is texture or bumpmap - I think it was meant to be recessed of some sort.

 

 

I've had a chance to look at the still on a HD television:

 

The gray area looks like wear damage. It is too irregular in shape to be a decal, and each one on each trooper is slightly different even though it is in the same place.

 

The black line is consistent for each trooper, similar to that Biker Scout Detail on the tank. It follows the "seam" line where the main tank meets with the side hump and follows that contour line all the way down and back to the armor. Looks like very thin car stripping should do the trick.

 

[Acrylikhan]

Just thought I'd post the conclusion to my back plate tank detail to detail the version 1.0 completed tank greeblies.

 

Looks Great!