First Build - ROTJ Bikerscout

[Chopper]

Yes, that is too much texture for the boots, . You do not want a pebbled texture on the vinyl.

[OnkelPaschulke]

Looks, like the "same" vinyl I bought first time and @Chopper said the same... 😉 unfortunately my old link doesn't work anymore but maybe this was the vinyl I bought afterwards. follow me

[Chopper]

Thank you Arne.

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19 minutes ago, OnkelPaschulke said:

Looks, like the "same" vinyl I bought first time and @Chopper said the same... 😉 unfortunately my old link doesn't work anymore but maybe this was the vinyl I bought afterwards. follow me

Thank you both!

Now I know in which WIP Thread I read about the wrong texture 😅 Should've gone with your link in the first place instead of picking up something locally. Thanks again for the new link! I just ordered through them.

Now I need to be creative and think about a project I can do with the remaining wrong vinyl 😅

 

[Retrofire]

You can always create a purse or a bookbag with the material, and sell it, or even something to protect your lid.😉

 

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20 hours ago, Retrofire said:

You can always create a purse or a bookbag with the material, and sell it, or even something to protect your lid.😉

 

That last one is a great idea, thanks!

And thanks again @OnkelPaschulkefor the link. Ordered on Sunday arrived today. From netherlands to germany within two work days, really impressive!

I also think that this is much closer to the texture I've seen in other threads. Just to make sure before i start cutting out pieces I wanted to check in again if you all think it works?

My knuckles are in there on purpose as scale

 

[Aradun]

That looks good and should do fine.

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After all this input and all the help i wanted to report success!

Thanks to cheesewhoopys tutorial and the youtube tutorial I mentioned in the last page of this thread (https://forum.501stpathfinders.com/topic/19708-biker-scout-boots-tutorial/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6L4bY9NnqM&ab_channel=MortimerCreative)

I was able to stretch the vinyl over the boots correctly. I struggled a lot in the beginning with this, so if someone has a similar problem of not getting it tight over the shoe: The things that helped me the most were stuffing the shoe with an old shirt so it wouldnt bend too much, and stretching and pinning from the middle of the toe as a start and then going back and forth between the two sides of the shoe, as shown in the youtube tutorial. However, I did not pin the two ends first on the second shoe and that helped me tremendously!

Almost 100 pins later ...

And since I didn't have any wooden color sticks to spread around the E6000, I used a scrap piece of ABS from the Armor. I also deliberatley did not put any glue in the wider vicinity of the shoelace rivets:

I was very nervous about having to redo all the forming and stretching, but the vinyl held up its shape!

I did however reheat the vinyl repeatedly during the forming and even after all the pins were in place. And I waited around 15 minutes after the last heat treatment.

So here they are for now, banished to the balcony so I don't have to inhale any more E6000

Feels really good to be working on this again!

 

 

[Aradun]

Fantastic work Stefan! They look excellent! Keep up the great work and let us know if you have any questions along the way.

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Just a small Update:

After looking closely at the other boots in this forum I tried to put the 1/2 Inch strip as low as possible. Pretty satisfied with the results, even if its not 100% perfect and has some spots were it does not sit 100% flat on the other vinyl.

Will start measuring and cutting the material for the tubes this weekend, but the actual sewing might take a while. The sewing machine my partner got a while ago has some tension issue.

 

[Chopper]

That looks good.

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Finally finished the boots!

This took me longer and was more difficult than I expected. Still fun!

I don't have much to add to cheesewhoopys tutorial, but still wanted to document my process.

I sewed in a strap on the right boot tube to help holding up against the weight of the holster, as Chopper pointed out in the tutorial. Its significant thinner than the one shown, it was what i had laying around, but it still seems to work.

Clamping didn't really work out for me. So I tried a few magnets i still had. And it worked like a charm! Definitely have more magnets on my list for the next cosplay project

I rounded out the dogbone after this picture. This is just to show the magnets.

Speaking of the dogbone. I got my template from KOtrooper's buildthread: https://forum.501stpathfinders.com/topic/22421-kotroopers-biker-scout-build/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-209950

Cheeswhoopy's tutorial recommends using CA Gorilla Glue on the edges of the dogbone. I didn't have any, so I'm happy to report that this all worked out with just E6000!

Here is something I did want to point out for Level 2: The dogbone is supposed to end above the toe strip on both sides. (as per CRL)

I don't know if it was something added to the CRL after cheeswhoopy's tutorial was created, but I didn't see it mentioned there, so I wanted to point it out for other people

I retrimmed my holster, and glued in reinforcements where the rivets will sit.

And finally here is a picture of the finished boots:

When they are not worn they ended up not being as straight as boots in other build threads, and when worn they do have crinkles and creases. I realized though by looking at the scoutopedia and other pictures of finished builds that this seems to be normal when worn. Am I correct in that regard?

Also, there is a bit of a gap between the holster and the vinyl of the boots, depending on how I stand. Looking at other people's boots it seems to be normal, still wanted to ask if this gap is okay?

Had a hard time pohotographing the boots close enough, so here are some pictures:

(wearing black sweat pants in this picture, and not the flight suit. that one is a bit better fitting!)

Looking at these again I really need to clean the mirrors in our apartment 😅

[Chopper]

Good work on your boots.

And yes you're correct that the boot build tutorial pre-dates that clarification on the CRL.

You already know this but always, always check the CRL for the most current information. 

[Aradun]

Awesome job on the boots. They look and fit great! Well done!

[OnkelPaschulke]

Nailed it! Good word!

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Finally had the chance to start working on the Flightsuit with some help! Glad I didn't have to do this alone

I looked at multiple different approaches. I liked Araduns the most. However, I saw that approach only after I already got help and tailored the flightsuit a bit tighter to myself. So for now, the mock up piece of fabric, and the Idea I had was to do two pieces. Left and right. And each will cover front and back. Since the Codpiece will definitely cover where they meet.

I also ran into the problem that there is an elastic band in the back of the flightsuit that bunches up the material and creates a lot of folds. I thought I could adress this by just attaching the Mudflap higher, as it would be covered by the cummerbund anyways?

Here is a rough drawn outline we did. My left side, marked by a little "X", was the one I liked more shapewise after drawing:

This is the mock up piece out of old fabric, and a quick test fit. I know in the back it doesnt go all the way to the drawn line, but thats more a an Issue of attaching it a bit loosely for those pictures, and i think should be okay once I use suede and make sure everything sits snug.

I cut the mockup-mudflap after this picture, as I thought it definitely does not need to be longer.

It really appreciate input/feedback/criticism on this, as I really want to make sure everything is good before cutting into the suede!

Thanks for reading!

[Chopper]

3 hours ago, wide said:

I also ran into the problem that there is an elastic band in the back of the flightsuit that bunches up the material and creates a lot of folds. I thought I could adress this by just attaching the Mudflap higher, as it would be covered by the cummerbund anyways?

Yes, that is fine.

The position and size of your riding patch in the back looks fine. In front, I think it's a bit too big. Just an approximation, but I'd consider taking 3/4 inch to 1 inch off of the outer edges of the front side patch. The shape is fine, just measure an 3/5 inch to 1 inch inwards from your existing edge in front.

The width of the back flap looks good. It's hard to give a good evaluation without the belt, but it looks a bit too long. You can use the pattern you have now and then trim it later, after you get your belt on.