Chopper Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hey folks -- Like several of you, I was in the initial run that Gio/Crowprops did of the scout boots + gloves. I thought it might be helpful to share some my feedback and perspective on both. BOOTS First off the boot soles are fantastic! The color is good and the details are dead on. It's not a stretch to say that the soles are probably the biggest draw of these boots. The separation between the boot and the sole are covered with the strip of leather, as the screen boots were, but there's a bit of a gap between the sole and vamp, which gives the strip an angled look. This is primarily apparent when looking front on: It's also apparent when looking top down as well. Less so from the side The dogbone is loose and is not secured to the boot underneath Here's what the under boot looks like: Note that there's no tongue in the underlying boot, which may be the cause of some of the shaft issues I'll describe later There's a velcro strap added to help keep the boot up, which is useful, though it results in a long stitch mark. As best I can tell, the stitching should be fully covered by most vendor's holsters. Also, the added lining to the leather in the shaft is a nice touch, even though it wasn't present in the original boots. My biggest issue with the boots is the odd way to shafts attach under the dog bone. In the photo it looks like the shafts were flattened in shipping, but they actually fall that way due to how they're attached to the boot vamp. There's an odd pinch at the base of the front of the boot, which I suspect is due to the shaft being attached too low on the boot. GLOVES Also included were some biker scout gloves. Below are some comparisons with the gloves available from Wampa Wear. Wampa Wear at top, Crowprops at bottom The Crowprops gloves seem small, especially at the flared wrist portion. The gloves are also missing some details on the palm side, such as the zippered pocket near the cuff. There is also some cinch stitching on the palm side that wasn't present on the Wampa gloves. FINAL COMMENTS There is a tremendous potential in this boot. Just having an accurate Sierra Sneaker sole alone is a massive benefit to the scout community, and for that I'm extremely grateful. I think this boot still needs some adjustments -- especially where the shaft meets the boot, which appears to be too low. I can't speak to how difficult an alteration this would be, but it would improve the overall appearance immensely. I would also suggest that perhaps Crowprops could offer the Sierra Sneaker sole affixed to an underboot, without the leather or coverings. This would allow scouts to build their own boots over an accurate base boot and sole. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeymark34 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 As usual Corey, awesome comparisons. This will certainly help current and future Scouts out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 As I look at mine, I wish the dog bone was closer to the ankle. It seems weird to me given all the measurements we provided that it was not. Maybe I can add some reinforcing material inside and underneath the dog bone to help the curve look more natural. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I wonder if whatever machine Gio is using to make those soles can’t handle sharp details? Not to knock these, they are already a huge leap forward, but the soles aren’t 100% there IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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