troygordon2 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'm currently building my ROTJ Scout trooper and just got the final pieces in. No more slacking and procrastinating, it's time to complete this thing already. I figured some of you would be curious about the Crow Props boots and gloves though, and wanted to give my first impression. Bottom Line Up Front: I'm impressed. The boots are beaitifully made and the leather is very supple. "Supple" isn't a word I get to use often, but having worn lots of boots in my day (real boots for the US Army and work boots), the leather is very soft and comfortable and nicely put together. The boot upper wraps around the lower which can be laced tight (plenty of lace in there, so I'll probably trim it back). The dog bone sits well forward, permitting a pretty wide boot over the shin. I'll take more pics and post them later once I get the holster (SC) trimmed and mounted. I really like that he included an elastic band thats almost 5 inches thick to help support the right boot with holster in place. I'll have to pull the velcro in a bit tighter, but still a nice touch I hadn't thought of. The tread is very tough stuff, and I think I remember him saying that he makes them special with CnC machines or something. Looks great. I'm a size 12US, and the fit is very nice. As a bonus he included the gloves. I'll post those pics later too. Honestly, I like them more than my Wampa Wear gloves. I have XL Wampas, and they don't feel right. The leather is tougher on those, and there seems to be more padding, but that XL doesn't fit the way it should, while the Crow Props XL feels perfect, going all the way to the skin between my fingers. The leather on the Crow gloves is soft, and has more of a sheen, but it's new leather, so I imagine that will fade with time. The Wampa gloves have a little pocket for...stuff I guess, that the Crow gloves don't, but storage space doesn't seem to be a big deal with the Scout in general given all the options we have with the belt and all. Again, I'll get more pics later but I like what I'm seeing and definitely feel it was worth the price paid. Shipping didn't seem to be an issue either, it took 12 days for them to arrive from Crow Props in .. I forget where he's at...Mexico, or Bolivia or something...Sorry Gio... but they made it to Montana just fine and promptly. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacrut Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Nice,... one question how tall is the inner boots? Is it like ankle boots height? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Should be able to see it in the picture. It comes up about 12cm or 4.5 inches from the base of the heel. Sorry I couldn't get a larger pic, it was limiting me for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacrut Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Great, Thank you. Ooh, shoelace stoper Edited October 15, 2020 by kacrut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pben Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The boots look really cool! Can you please post also an image of the gloves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Apparently I can't load too many photos... Maybe I need photo bucket links. Here's the top of the gloves at least. You can see the Crow gloves on the left are slightly shorter than the Wampa, they also don't have that little clasp/clip thing. The leather is thinner/softer on the Crow gloves, but it's a very comfortable glove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradun Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 It looks like your photo limitation is because you are using the forum’s allowance which is super limited. You can use a photo hosting service like photo bucket or download the free Tapatalk app on your smartphone which will allow you to upload pics from your phone directly into your forum posts. Tapatalk’s free version is pretty generous with the number of photos you can upload each month, but upgrading to a subscriber account for a buck a month gets you unlimited photo uploads. Something worth looking into especially as you’ll be uploading photos regularly to your WIP now that all of your gear is coming in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTrooper Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I got in on this project, too. Just recently got my boots and gloves, myself. I personally felt the trunks of the boots were hastily attached to the shoes. They just look kinda sloppy-looking. Luckily, that looks like something that can bee modifiied, myself, to make the boots look more sleek and clean-looking. I'm a bit of a neat freak. Other than that, I'd say he did a good job with the boots, and I'm very happy somebody came out with replicas of the Hi-Tec soles! CrowProps just may have raised the bar in Scout costume building! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I have mine as well. I'll have a review forthcoming soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 11:55 AM, Chopper said: I have mine as well. I'll have a review forthcoming soon. I'd very much like to hear it! Its my first build, and MAAAAAYYYYYBEEEE I would say I'm not entirely stoked about how far forward the dog bone seems to sit on my foot. The straight up and down of the calf looks right, and they are comfortable to be sure, but something about that dog bone seems off to me. BUT, I am very new to soft parts, so I could be wrong. It's happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 3:44 PM, troygordon2 said: I'd very much like to hear it! Its my first build, and MAAAAAYYYYYBEEEE I would say I'm not entirely stoked about how far forward the dog bone seems to sit on my foot. The straight up and down of the calf looks right, and they are comfortable to be sure, but something about that dog bone seems off to me. BUT, I am very new to soft parts, so I could be wrong. It's happened before. Don't be shy about giving your feedback. As Gio is a small vendor, if we see areas for improvement, we can pass them along to him and he may be able to update future builds to be better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fil5117 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On the negative side, I too wasn't impressed with the packaging they came in. Ramming them into a stupidly small box and crumpling the leather in the process was unnecessary. I think the boots could have benefitted from a tongue on the 'donor' boot, but that's no biggie. I believe the trim shouldn't extend the whole way around, but finish under the dog bone but that's hidden by the back panel. One of the technically not accurate mods I made was to add some velcro to anchor the back of the boot - I find Biker boots a pig to fasten so this helps me to close them (annoyingly the cobbler added some gunky glue, but it's not seen). Other than that I love them, the sole is gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fil5117 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Whilst a nice touch I don't think the boot holster elastic is entirely necessary because the sizing based on our measurements were spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 On the pinched ankle. I've been able to experiment with .5 inch poron sheets I have for other projects, and they are soft enough to be comfortable and do a good job fillings the space in front of the ankle and the inside of the boot to remove the pinch. I'm going to experiment a bit more and hopefully come up with a cheap and easy solution. I must admit, the more I deal with it, the less thrilled I am as to the quality of these. The leather is nice and soft, but I think it could have used more...beef... to help the sleeve stay up and fill out the area under the dog bone. The sole is awesome, and I the workmanship regarding stitching and all is very nice, but I think he needs to move that pattern closer to the ankle and bulk it up a bit rather than letting it get so pinched and floppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, troygordon2 said: On the pinched ankle. I've been able to experiment with .5 inch poron sheets I have for other projects, and they are soft enough to be comfortable and do a good job fillings the space in front of the ankle and the inside of the boot to remove the pinch. I'm going to experiment a bit more and hopefully come up with a cheap and easy solution. I must admit, the more I deal with it, the less thrilled I am as to the quality of these. The leather is nice and soft, but I think it could have used more...beef... to help the sleeve stay up and fill out the area under the dog bone. The sole is awesome, and I the workmanship regarding stitching and all is very nice, but I think he needs to move that pattern closer to the ankle and bulk it up a bit rather than letting it get so pinched and floppy. Yes, and I felt similar in my review as well. I still think that Gio would benefit from just producing an underboot with the Sierra sole, which would give folks the option for doing their own leather or vinyl covering instead. It'd be less work on his side as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fil5117 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Accuracy wise I was particularly impressed with Chef's boot, if I was a little braver I'd be tempted to see if he would be prepared to strip down the boot and use it as the base for his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troygordon2 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 I think I've got a cheap and easy solution to the pinched heel. I took some foam .5 inches wide, cut a piece to gently wrap the top of the ankle and not get in the way of the calf strap, added a smaller slice above with contact cement, and it seems to do the trick filling out that space under the dog bone. I cut slots in it to add an elastic strap to help hold it in place as well as hold the laces from the lower white boot. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WFYN1G7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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