Jdmtuner13 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I noticed on the crl today that it says for level 2 any joining seems on the helmet will need to be filled. So sc helmet unless modified cannot make lancer? am I correct on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Correct. The seam has to be filled. Its really not that hard. Other than having to fill the seam its fine for lancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeymark34 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 What seams will you be filling for a SC helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 The connection between the dome top and the dome backside. the originals were connected by joining two side halves together, filling it and then painted. SC and some others (kropserkel too?) are different as they are connected top and bottom instead, easier to complete because the seam is barely visible and doesn't need filling per say... This means that many SC users haven't had to paint anything so far. Finding the right kind of pain and colour and applying it in even layers is one of the reasons people could have gone for the SC bucket in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jdmtuner13 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 So that brings to question. What are sc helmet users using to fill the seem? Are they then having to paint the helmet completely? Would love to see some examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdmtuner13 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Stroker said: Correct. The seam has to be filled. Its really not that hard. Other than having to fill the seam its fine for lancer. Have you done this? What did you use to fill it? I would assume some sort of platic bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 If you save your trimmings from kit construction, you can make abs paste to fill the seam. There's a good explanation on whitearmor: https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/42866-how-to-make-abs-paste/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jdmtuner13 said: Have you done this? What did you use to fill it? I would assume some sort of platic bond This is what I use on all the 5 piece helmets. Also seen troopers use it on the sc helmets. Easy to sand and takes paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdmtuner13 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Stroker said: This is what I use on all the 5 piece helmets. Also seen troopers use it on the sc helmets. Easy to sand and takes paint. So would you repaint the entire helmet after that? Just curious on what others are doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Yeah you'd need to repaint after filling using devcon. It has a yellow color once it cures. One advantage of using your excess plastic scrap with abspaste is that you don't need to be repainted after sanding, bc the paste is the same color as the helmet. I've also seen people use white caulk, but it doesn't take paint well and will turn yellow over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdmtuner13 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, Chopper said: Yeah you'd need to repaint after filling using devcon. It has a yellow color once it cures. One advantage of using your excess plastic scrap with abspaste is that you don't need to be repainted after sanding, bc the paste is the same color as the helmet. I've also seen people use white caulk, but it doesn't take paint well and will turn yellow over time. I have made the abs paste for my tk not sure it takes a polishing to well though. I mostly used it for reinforcement of certain areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeymark34 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Digger said: The connection between the dome top and the dome backside. the originals were connected by joining two side halves together, filling it and then painted. SC and some others (kropserkel too?) are different as they are connected top and bottom instead, easier to complete because the seam is barely visible and doesn't need filling per say... This means that many SC users haven't had to paint anything so far. Finding the right kind of pain and colour and applying it in even layers is one of the reasons people could have gone for the SC bucket in the first place. I forgot about that. I have an SC kit on the way. I was thinking about the Visor, as I have seen other makers have a two piece visor and back of the helmet that needs to be joined. On the SC site, it shows the back and visor as one piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 SC is a back and cap style. Meaning the cap glues to the back. Then the visor and faceplate go together. The seam in the back can be a pain. The idea chopper and I gave you are just about the only thing you can do. One doesn't really out weight the other. Like chopper said with devcon you'll have to sand and repaint. The abs paste is hard to sand,but works just as good a glue. Caulk does works also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdmtuner13 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Stroker said: SC is a back and cap style. Meaning the cap glues to the back. Then the visor and faceplate go together. The seam in the back can be a pain. The idea chopper and I gave you are just about the only thing you can do. One doesn't really out weight the other. Like chopper said with devcon you'll have to sand and repaint. The abs paste is hard to sand,but works just as good a glue. Caulk does works also. I find it interesting because I know as a tk the crl pretty much band any three piece style helmets from being approved. I think there were only a few three piece helmets out anyhow like fx and the like. I wonder if they will ever go to something similar with the scout helmet. I hope not but things do change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jdmtuner13 said: I find it interesting because I know as a tk the crl pretty much band any three piece style helmets from being approved. I think there were only a few three piece helmets out anyhow like fx and the like. I wonder if they will ever go to something similar with the scout helmet. I hope not but things do change. Unlikely to happen anytime in the near future. For years there wasn't that many scout makers out there. It's really stepped up the last few years. We finally have options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdmtuner13 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Stroker said: Unlikely to happen anytime in the near future. For years there wasn't that many scout makers out there. It's really stepped up the last few years. We finally have options. That’s good for sure. There’s a bunch of options I have noticed just in doing my research. Some good some well you know but atleast there are options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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