Rogue81's Scout Trooper Build

[Rogue81]

Greetings everyone!

I've decided to take the first steps on a much larger journey and start my scout trooper build. I've been trooping with the 501st for about three years now as ROTJ Vader and I figured it was time to add a new costume to my collection now that I've finished my R2 build (well, the static version, next step is to make him RC - but I needed a break).

So why the scout trooper? Well, a couple reasons:

1) Lots of soft parts, so I can flex my sewing skills for this project. I can't wait to crack open the sewing machine!

2) I really wanted a 3d printed solution so I could adjust the size and also hone my finishing skills.

3) The idea of having a costume where I can sit down is pretty awesome

Here's my source list, I'll be updating this regularly as I make my way through this project:

• Bucket: Jesus Salmeron's 3d design from CGTraders (here) - Not yet started
• Armor: MrPoopie's 3d designs from Thingiverse (here) - Printing in progress
• Flight Suit: RedKap from Amazon (here) - Purchased, but not yet started

And these are some of the builds I'm following:

• Emile1138
• Brasidas76
• Gooseman77

I'll add a progress update later but wanted to get the topic started!

 

[BikerScout007]

Welcome Anthony!  I've bumped you up to 501st level access.   

[Rogue81]

1 hour ago, BikerScout007 said:

Welcome Anthony!  I've bumped you up to 501st level access.   

Thank you!!

And just started printing my helmet... here goes... something! 

[Rogue81]

Helmet Build

Tonight I purchased Jesus Salmeron's 3d design from CGTraders (here), it's a great setup, and he even includes the supports if you're using Simplify3D (I'm not, I use Prusa Slicer - but the thought is still nice).

I just fired up the printer, starting with the visor. Fingers crossed that it fits alright. I'm assuming the helmet size is relatively universal? I guess I'll find out when I print the bucket! Which, in hindsight is probably what I should have started with.

 

[Chopper]

Helmet size, 3D, or otherwise, can vary depending on the maker. I believe this photo came from Mon Cal, but here are the relative dimensions of the original screen used helmet if you're interested in seeing how it compares to the 3D model you purchased.

[Rogue81]

Helmet size, 3D, or otherwise, can vary depending on the maker. I believe this photo came from Mon Cal, but here are the relative dimensions of the original screen used helmet if you're interested in seeing how it compares to the 3D model you purchased.

This is awesome. Thank you for the help!


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[mickeymark34]

Welcome fellow prospective TB, I mean, my lord. I am also looking forward to starting my build. I have a Studio Creations Armor and Helmet Kit on order and it should be here very soon. Good luck.

[Rogue81]

Welcome fellow prospective TB, I mean, my lord. I am also looking forward to starting my build. I have a Studio Creations Armor and Helmet Kit on order and it should be here very soon. Good luck.

Thanks! Good luck with your build as well. So glad we have this support group here haha.


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[Rogue81]

Helmet Update

Quick update from the road (In Atlanta for the night while my printer pumps away).

I'm using a Prusa MK2.5S so the build plate isn't big enough to print the whole helmet so I had to cut the main bucket into five pieces. I have the first two pieces of the bucket shell done and it seems to wrap around my head nicely with lots of space. Still have three more pieces to go so that will be the true test for fit!

I'm printing the helmet in PETG.

Question for the group - what super glue do you use to get a nice bond on PETG? I tried DAP's super glue gel, I think it was called rapid fuse. For the life of me I couldn't get the pieces to stick though oddly. I've never had an issue gluing up ABS and PLA with CA glue so was surprised when I had such a hard time doing it with PET!

I ordered some zip kicker so hopefully that will help, but for any of you who have done any printing in PETG I'd love to hear how you're fusing pieces together.

Oh and here's a pic of one half of the bucket shell and the visor!

Thanks!

[Rogue81]

Helmet Update

Whew... okay, slicing up the bucket to accommodate my print bed has really made this a challenge. Wowie. All pieces have been printed (pictures to come) however for one reason or another everything isn't fitting as nicely as one would expect.

In the meantime, I think I need to start pricing out real bucket kits!

[Rogue81]

Body Armor Update

Hello all! So I've been printing out my body armor in pieces, and I'm now working on the back piece. I scaled the front up to 105% on Slicer to accommodate my larger frame. I thought I did the same for the back armor, however the straps don't seem to be the same width. So my question is, did I not scale up properly or is this piece supposed to be smaller and fit into the channel of the front armor? Take a look at the images and let me know what you think. I can't seem to find a decent image from the top to see how they connect!

Thanks!

[MrPoopie]

18 hours ago, Rogue81 said:

Body Armor Update

Hello all! So I've been printing out my body armor in pieces, and I'm now working on the back piece. I scaled the front up to 105% on Slicer to accommodate my larger frame. I thought I did the same for the back armor, however the straps don't seem to be the same width. So my question is, did I not scale up properly or is this piece supposed to be smaller and fit into the channel of the front armor? Take a look at the images and let me know what you think. I can't seem to find a decent image from the top to see how they connect!

Thanks!

They're supposed to line up. What versions of the chest and back are you using? The version of the files need to be the same otherwise changes that were made would not match up. I've made adjustments to these files when I have new information or someone ran into a problem that was faxable. The most recent version is 1.3.1 but you don't necessarily need to be using the most current version just so long as they're matching.

[Selle]

1 hour ago, MrPoopie said:

They're supposed to line up. What versions of the chest and back are you using? The version of the files need to be the same otherwise changes that were made would not match up. I've made adjustments to these files when I have new information or someone ran into a problem that was faxable. The most recent version is 1.3.1 but you don't necessarily need to be using the most current version just so long as they're matching.

I noticed the same today when i lined my parts up. hm Back is v 1.0.1 and front is v 1.0

[MrPoopie]

2 minutes ago, Selle said:

I noticed the same today when i lined my parts up. hm Back is v 1.0.1 and front is v 1.0

Same issue. Sorry for the confusion.

[Rogue81]

On 11/21/2019 at 2:33 PM, MrPoopie said:

They're supposed to line up. What versions of the chest and back are you using? The version of the files need to be the same otherwise changes that were made would not match up. I've made adjustments to these files when I have new information or someone ran into a problem that was faxable. The most recent version is 1.3.1 but you don't necessarily need to be using the most current version just so long as they're matching.

I think this was a scaling issue. I tried to cut up the full back file in my slicer program but that caused some measurement issues. I ended up slicing it in Meshmixer instead and now everything is back to normal. It's okay, I have some junk parts to give to my Jawa friend. She's always looking for scrap pieces lol.

[Rogue81]

Armor and Helmet Update

Hello everyone! A quick update. My chest and back armor have been printed and glued together. 

I printed them both in PETG for the extra stability (I hope). I super glued everything together with some zip kicker to help speed things along but also add some structural support. The same goes for the helmet. I'll have my work cut out for me on this next step of finishing everything. I'm hoping the skills I developed finishing 3d parts for my R2 will transfer over to this haha.

Before I start my epic sanding adventure though, I'm going to lay some fiberglass on the backside of the chest and back armor, as well as line the helmet with fiberglass to help hold everything together. Fingers crossed this helps reduce the risk of accidental cracks and breaks (at least on the seams).

 

[MrPoopie]

Looking real good. I used fiberglass resin (without fiber) to strengthen everything as well as helped smooth it out if you use it on the front sides. You can also use XTC 3D put it can get pricey for larger parts.

[Rogue81]

Oh good tip! I have some XTC but never thought about using the resin to accomplish the same goal!


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[USG51]

looks good man I would also use filer primer to even every thing out and then hit it with some black paint to help with seeing the low and high spots and you can also use bondo spot putty.

good luck man I'm starting my first trooper build and am 3D printing my armor as well so any tips would be greatly appreciated.

[Rogue81]

On 11/28/2019 at 5:19 AM, USG51 said:

looks good man I would also use filer primer to even every thing out and then hit it with some black paint to help with seeing the low and high spots and you can also use bondo spot putty.

good luck man I'm starting my first trooper build and am 3D printing my armor as well so any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

I just fiberglassed all the armor pieces, next step is to start the finishing process on them. I'm going to do a mix of sanding, XTC3D, bondo (of course), and filler primer. I think it's going to take a bit of everything to get these to approvable levels.

Not sure how familiar you are with 3d printing but these are a couple of "ah ha" things from me from my journey so far.

My biggest tip so far is, if you have to break up the armor to fit your printer, slice it all out in Meshmixer instead of your slicing program. I tried cutting it up in Slic3r and had all kinds of scale issues. Meshmixer was a savior. I actually made a video that I'll post showing how I did it.

Oh, and lowering my expectations as the prints leave the plate... I know it's not going to look good until all the elbow grease goes into it. There were a few moments where I thought... WTF am I doing here... this looks like crap... and then I thought back to the dozens of 3d printed parts I made look like metal for my R2 and remembered, yeah, I can do this haha.

Ugh, what was life like before 3d printing?

[USG51]

6 hours ago, Rogue81 said:

Thank you!

I just fiberglassed all the armor pieces, next step is to start the finishing process on them. I'm going to do a mix of sanding, XTC3D, bondo (of course), and filler primer. I think it's going to take a bit of everything to get these to approvable levels.

Not sure how familiar you are with 3d printing but these are a couple of "ah ha" things from me from my journey so far.

My biggest tip so far is, if you have to break up the armor to fit your printer, slice it all out in Meshmixer instead of your slicing program. I tried cutting it up in Slic3r and had all kinds of scale issues. Meshmixer was a savior. I actually made a video that I'll post showing how I did it.

Oh, and lowering my expectations as the prints leave the plate... I know it's not going to look good until all the elbow grease goes into it. There were a few moments where I thought... WTF am I doing here... this looks like crap... and then I thought back to the dozens of 3d printed parts I made look like metal for my R2 and remembered, yeah, I can do this haha.

Ugh, what was life like before 3d printing?

I under stand that I have bean 3D printing for about 3 or 4 years now and I use Simplify 3-D for every thing and mesh-mixer is a life saver I like to put holes so I can line it up with dowel rods. This is the last print that I finished 

[Rogue81]

5 hours ago, USG51 said:

I under stand that I have bean 3D printing for about 3 or 4 years now and I use Simplify 3-D for every thing and mesh-mixer is a life saver I like to put holes so I can line it up with dowel rods. This is the last print that I finished 

That is AWESOME! Love the lights. 

[USG51]

7 hours ago, Rogue81 said:

That is AWESOME! Love the lights. 

thank you its actually really easy to do and that was really fun way to spend 60 hours lol 

[clayorrnot]

Any update on your bucket? My kit is a nightmare and I'm seriously like 20 minutes away from buying Jesus' model and printing up my own. It's 501 accepted once the holes are cut out right?

[Rogue81]

Hey Clay! No updates. I have it glued together, and I fiberglassed the inside to add stability to it. That's where I left off. Got distracted with a new kid and other projects. I'll be dusting it off soon though. There's a couple of folks here who did the Jesus model and were approved in it (which is why I went that route).

If you have a bigger print bed, it'll make life so much easier.

Good luck!