Dart Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 If I may suggest... Iron out that top edge. You want it to be crip, so use an iron at low heat and put a medium thickness towel over top the vinyl. Makes a big difference. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 I think these are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Has anyone cut out the ankle padding on this type of work boot? It seems on every pair I've seen (if you are looking for it) you can see that extra padding under the vinyl. I kinda think I could forego the ankle support for aesthetics in a pair of costume boots. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I vaguely recall that someone mentioned it in one of the older boot build threads. As long as it's still wearable, comfortable, and looks like a scout boot from the outside, there's no reason you couldn't go that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatfoodRob Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Here's how I cut my boots up . Not exactly the same boot, but you get the idea . I sewed/ glued the flaps where the laces went onto the remnants of the tongue , allowing enough slack for my foot to get in . This produced quite a tight looking boot I think . Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Yes. I actually already took the plunge and cut that area of the boots out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 My MC bucket showed up today. Got some work cut out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Not much time to tinker today, but I did get a little time to remove some of the mold slag from the rotocast portion of the MC bucket. A metal file took care of most of it, followed up with some sandpaper to smooth things out. MonCal calls this a "Grade B" helmet kit due to the mold having some imperfections. He was kind enough to mark the areas that need some Bondo attention in marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 A little more work fitting the visor today. I used some metal snips to remove the bulk of the extra material, then followed up with a drum sander attached to my drill press to get things closer. All final sanding will be done by hand. I get nervous cutting into purchased parts that I can't reproduce myself. I hope I don't EFF this up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Nice work so far. I'm curious, what's the weight of Cal's rotocast helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chopper said: Nice work so far. I'm curious, what's the weight of Cal's rotocast helmet? I'm getting 2.5 lbs on my scale (sans paint and bondo) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 So far this MC helmet is going together nicely. I'm far from finished but here are my initial thoughts. The kit comes with everything needed minus the finishing materials (paint, bondo) and padding. The inclusion of a thermoformed eye lens is nice, however I'm leaning toward trying to use something else. Maybe a trimmed to fit lens from a ski or motocross goggle. Reason being... I think the thermoforming process really does a job on the optical clarity of the transparent plastic. I mean BAD!!! It's like looking at a dirty fun-house mirror. If this were nothing but a shelf display helmet this would be more than fine, but for those who plan on trooping in it for hours on end this could quite literally cause headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 So far this MC helmet is going together nicely. I'm far from finished but here are my initial thoughts. The kit comes with everything needed minus the finishing materials (paint, bondo) and padding. The inclusion of a thermoformed eye lens is nice, however I'm leaning toward trying to use something else. Maybe a trimmed to fit lens from a ski or motocross goggle. Reason being... I think the thermoforming process really does a job on the optical clarity of the transparent plastic. I mean BAD!!! It's like looking at a dirty fun-house mirror. If this were nothing but a shelf display helmet this would be more than fine, but for those who plan on trooping in it for hours on end this could quite literally cause headaches. Hey there, your kit is coming together really well. The boots look great, nice cuts in the soles. As far as the lens goes some people have leaned towards getting a welder lens and cutting it to fit their bucket then hot gluing it in there or spike here on the forums sells them as well. You want to try to hit him up. Keep up the good work and you will be patrolling with us in no time flat. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 Thanks Jaekputt. That's a great idea. I see them on Amazon for $7 dollars. By the reviews it seems this is a popular choice for costume helmets. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VECKRO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Another observation with the MC bucket is symmetry. Not having much experience with costume helmets made from molds I can only assume this may be an issue with all of them to a certain degree. Cal's ABS parts are marked with trim lines which seem to be spot on for getting the parts to line up with the roto-cast bucket. (see photos in previous post where they are mocked up with tape). However... I'm noticing 2 issues thus far. The visor sits higher on the wearers left side and the eye hole is bias to the right. For you veteran Scout helmet builders/wearers, is this something you'd be concerned with or should I take an OCD pill? (disclaimer, I work in QA and engineering so these type of things really stand out to someone with my background) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Thanks Jaekputt. That's a great idea. I see them on Amazon for $7 dollars. By the reviews it seems this is a popular choice for costume helmets.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VECKRO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Another observation with the MC bucket is symmetry. Not having much experience with costume helmets made from molds I can only assume this may be an issue with all of them to a certain degree. Cal's ABS parts are marked with trim lines which seem to be spot on for getting the parts to line up with the roto-cast bucket. (see photos in previous post where they are mocked up with tape). However... I'm noticing 2 issues thus far. The visor sits higher on the wearers left side and the eye hole is bias to the right. For you veteran Scout helmet builders/wearers, is this something you'd be concerned with or should I take an OCD pill? (disclaimer, I work in QA and engineering so these type of things really stand out to someone with my background)Although I have an altmanns barn find from spike and it was altogether for me. I don't believe these kind of concerns are really that big of a deal in the long run and the public won't be pulling out rulers measuring things themselves. They will see you as a super cool biker scout and that measurement also isn't as much of a concern for lancer standards either. I believe the CRL indicates more concern with the snout greeblie and making sure that the helmet is screen accurate. Which from the way things look, it seems like your doing good there. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Hey Kurt, if you look closely, the scout helmet is actually not perfectly symmetrical. While it's not as grossly asymmetrical as an OT stormtrooper helmet, it's definitely not 3D sculpt perfect. Look at the head-on image below and you'll see what I mean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawktrooper Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Jakeputt said: Although I have an altmanns barn find from spike and it was altogether for me. I don't believe these kind of concerns are really that big of a deal in the long run and the public won't be pulling out rulers measuring things themselves. They will see you as a super cool biker scout and that measurement also isn't as much of a concern for lancer standards either. I believe the CRL indicates more concern with the snout greeblie and making sure that the helmet is screen accurate. Which from the way things look, it seems like your doing good there. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk 1 hour ago, greenyone said: Thanks Jaekputt. That's a great idea. I see them on Amazon for $7 dollars. By the reviews it seems this is a popular choice for costume helmets. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VECKRO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Another observation with the MC bucket is symmetry. Not having much experience with costume helmets made from molds I can only assume this may be an issue with all of them to a certain degree. Cal's ABS parts are marked with trim lines which seem to be spot on for getting the parts to line up with the roto-cast bucket. (see photos in previous post where they are mocked up with tape). However... I'm noticing 2 issues thus far. The visor sits higher on the wearers left side and the eye hole is bias to the right. For you veteran Scout helmet builders/wearers, is this something you'd be concerned with or should I take an OCD pill? (disclaimer, I work in QA and engineering so these type of things really stand out to someone with my background) The film costumes had numerous "Quirks" from the TK to Vader to the Biker. None were perfectly symmetrical and all had some evidence of "hand makery". Cal does not strive to be symmetricaly perfect in his sculpting, he is rather strict on film accuracy even down to these imperfections shown in the film. If you noticed one of these, chalk it up to your observation skill Great looking build! thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Thanks. Figured as much...just asking because I'm new to this and I'm not sure what is considered acceptable in the costuming world. To the naked eye (as was suggested) it looks just fine. But like I said previously, my OCD kicks in sometimes. In addition to my engineering background I also tinker with CNC machining as a hobby. So I obsess about symmetry, tolerances and that sort of thing. Pressing on with the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Got the ABS parts all trimmed up. The eye lens hole was fun. I drilled 3/16 holes all the way around then snipped in between them to pop out it out. Then about an hour of carefully massaging the plastic back with a small Dremel sanding drum. On to the ear cutouts and then bondo-sand-repeat. Having built 2 Astromechs I thought I'd enjoy this part....but I"m ready to get away from sanding dust and back to the soft parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Ears cutout by drilling around the perimeter....followed up with the Dremel to smooth things out. (chin strap slots too) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Looking good brother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 In an earlier post I commented on the symmetry issues with the MC bucket. It's reared it's ugly head again. Cal's provided cut marks on the face plate were considerably higher on the on the right side (when looking at the face of the helmet). In my ignorance I adjusted that cut line to be even across the brow. (I assumed this was an error in his provided cut line) Now when everything is dry fit I have a gap where that portion of the face plate meets the visor. It would appear as though the cut line was purposely skewed/uneven to account for the lack of symmetry in the parts as a whole. I guess I'll be making an ABS patch combined with some body work to fix the gap. Ugh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Yeah, sounds like you've got the right strategy if you feel the need to fill the gap in. Keep in mind that it's pretty hard to see stuff like that -- the return edge on the front blocks a lot of that area from being visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyone Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Got the popular Hobart tinted face-shield in the mail today. Traced a template using posterboard and added 1/4 inch to the perimeter. Gonna try to glue some tabs to the inside of the face-plate to accept the lens. I'm trying for something that will make it easy to swap out lenses when/if it gets scratched up. This lens material cuts fairly easy with a pair of Lexan scissors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawktrooper Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Looks good! I might have to find one of those for my own I still have the included lens in mine. When you get to the hinge part let me know. I can send you some photos how I modified my MC bucket for a 2-stop opening. It works really well and you can't tell its any different from a distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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