762s Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 1:35 PM, Darth Voorhees said: Yes it did originate from Smitty's old one, but at this point i think most of that is gone lol. It fits nicely in MC holsters and SC holsters. Not sure about Stider ones yet, but from everything i have seen the proportions should be very very close to the screen used (going by the scope size) so id think it would fit in the strider/CFO holster well. im not sure what you consider a good fit ... imo, i think cfo/strider holster needs to be shrunk on the outside rounded portion of their holster by about an inch. the only way to get your blaster secured 100% in the cfo/strider holster was to add a brace inside the rounded edge ... its about 1" from the blasters scope side and holds the blaster in the holster securely. i have had kids trying to pull on the blaster and it doesnt budge. btw .. im not using your dual magnet system as i found the blaster would still pop/bounce out the holster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/10/2019 at 5:35 PM, 762s said: im not sure what you consider a good fit ... imo, i think cfo/strider holster needs to be shrunk on the outside rounded portion of their holster by about an inch. the only way to get your blaster secured 100% in the cfo/strider holster was to add a brace inside the rounded edge ... its about 1" from the blasters scope side and holds the blaster in the holster securely. i have had kids trying to pull on the blaster and it doesnt budge. btw .. im not using your dual magnet system as i found the blaster would still pop/bounce out the holster Wow thats a considerable gap there! Nice mod to make it work though! I dont think this is an issue with the blaster since the blaster has fit well in both MC and SC holsters. It almost looks like the holster was made for the old Hyperfirm blasters which were inaccurate in that the entire scope sat a bit away from the body of the pistol,(in my signature im holding a hyperfirm blaster) where as in LFL reference shots, the "rounded" area in the center of the scope should be flattened on one side to set the scope closer to the body. Looks to me the holster should be more shallow looking at this screen grab. There is way less flat area between the slotted raised area and where it starts to curve around the blaster. Looks like there should be an even amount of space on both sides of the raised slotted area. As far as the magnet system, i had mine in my MC holster (which didnt have that space you point out on this one) and was able to turn it upside down without it coming out, and that was with one magnet on the pistol and just a piece of metal in the holster. I was even able to run a bit and it not fall out. I think the reason it isnt working in your holster is it doesnt look like the Strider holster has the little "ledge" that the magnet would be mounted to, or its not substantial enough. It looks like it just rests on the trigger guard only. There is also a magnet in the resistor on the grip that you could add another in the boot to hold it in that direction but i would think that it wouldnt hold strong enough without the other magnet at the front of the pistol to work in conjunction with it as well. That said, The dual magnets usually hold very strong as per my testing in MC and SC holsters, and a buyer can buy an extra magnet and place it under the one i supply from the inside of the holster (basically making an ABS sandwich ...magnet plastic magnet)to make it stronger if needed. I have not heard of anyone saying the system didnt work before, and am only mentioning it since this is the sale thread and i dont want people thinking the system doesnt work. i dont think you had any ill intention towards the blaster, but just felt the need to point this out. I do however appreciate the input pertaining to the Strider holster. Do we know if CFO made any changes to the holster? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hi guys, Mark just pointed me towards this thread and I thought I quickly chime in; it's a bit strange that Ken's Blaster doesn't fit into my holster and I can't really tell why atm. I can say the follwoing though: - According to Mark he didn't make any changes to my molds - My holster is about the same size as the MC one - My blaster (the scope is cast from an original and the other dimensions are based in relation to it) fits in perfectly (i.e. like the oringinals) Took some crappy pics last night of it: https://imgur.com/fwTpxvV https://imgur.com/2Xw4kFC https://imgur.com/SzsXrvU Cheers 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledx Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 same here, got my strider armor last year (February) and build the holster like Striker shows in his WIP. I bought a full Resin blaster from Strider and its fits perfectly. greetings 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Strider said: Hi guys, Mark just pointed me towards this thread and I thought I quickly chime in; it's a bit strange that Ken's Blaster doesn't fit into my holster and I can't really tell why atm. I can say the follwoing though: - According to Mark he didn't make any changes to my molds - My holster is about the same size as the MC one - My blaster (the scope is cast from an original and the other dimensions are based in relation to it) fits in perfectly (i.e. like the oringinals) Took some crappy pics last night of it: https://imgur.com/fwTpxvV https://imgur.com/2Xw4kFC https://imgur.com/SzsXrvU Cheers I pointed Mark to the thread since he was the most recent maker of your armor. Yea it didnt make sense to me either. I have a hunch both of our blasters are about the same size. Mark suggested it could be an assembly issue of the holster. If other folks dont have an issue with your blaster fitting the holster and both our blasters are based of the real cast scope and sized off of that, our blasters should be pretty much the same size, so id tend to lean towards what Mark suggested. Thanks for clearing that up Constantine! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 @Darth Voorhees @Strider @sskunky this post is intended to talk about the combination of dvh's blaster and cfo/strider armor and not keep runnning dvh's for sale thread off track. the conversation in the for sale thread starts from the post in the link ... http://forum.501stpathfinders.com/index.php?/topic/20006-dvh-ec-17-scoutpatrol-trooper-pistol-run-spring-2019-open/&do=findComment&comment=182748 this post is not to bash or steer people away from either vendor. actually, i highly suggest you buy from both of them. both vendors have treated me very well and their products are top notch. maybe, we can figure out where the issue is and a fix or adjustment can be made? so, continuing from the conversation. mainly because, i dont see how its a build issue on my side. as theres no way to make the holster bend and if i cut the flat side the vents would be to close to the holster body i would like some measurements from you all ... ~ measurements of the blaster ~ measurements of the holster ~ i have 2 cfo/strider holsters ... 1 built and not built, they are the same. ~ i have 1 dvh blaster looking at striders pics of his blaster in the holster id say the DVH is slightly smaller .. different proportions here and there. look how far in the dvh blaster sits down into the holster. look at the scope adjustment cap cover location compared to striders. there is also a gap between the scope and the blaster body on the strider. the dvh scope is on the body, no gap there at all heres my pics with measurements ... if i need more pics/measurements just say so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The blaster you have looks to be the V2. The V3 is a bit wider in the grip but i think the rest is the same as far as size. ** EDIT: I just measured the V3 and its 3" wide, the rest is the same. The grip itself is wider 1 & 1/8th", but i dont think that makes any difference as far as holster placement. The issue could be what you said about the space between the scope and the body. If Striders blaster has that, that would make the blaster a bit wider. I would also assume that he'd make his holster to fit the blaster he makes since he has easy access to it. A lot of the blaster avaiable have a space between the scope and the body and that may be why most holsters fit those blasters. Here is a shot of a scout pistol from the LFL archives, and you can see that there is no space between the scope and the body here is my blaster compared to one that was recently auctioned off, the angle isnt exactly the same, but you get the idea. I feel mine is very close to the actual prop size. As far as the holster itself goes, i cant really say, as i didnt make it nor do i have a holster here to test fit...but in this photo the holster looks to be more shallow on the outer side. i cant really find any other images, but in this image, to me it looks like there is 3/4" on either side of the slotted raised area (using your 3/4" measurement form your holster) maybe a little bit more on the outer side before it curves around the blaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Quote Hi guys, Mark just pointed me towards this thread and I thought I quickly chime in; it's a bit strange that Ken's Blaster doesn't fit into my holster and I can't really tell why atm. I can say the follwoing though: - According to Mark he didn't make any changes to my molds - My holster is about the same size as the MC one - My blaster (the scope is cast from an original and the other dimensions are based in relation to it) fits in perfectly (i.e. like the oringinals) Took some crappy pics last night of it: https://imgur.com/fwTpxvV https://imgur.com/2Xw4kFC https://imgur.com/SzsXrvU Cheers This is what Strider posted in the other thread for reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledx Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 i have the same holster and maby the same blaster from Strider I check the dimensions and there a some difference. The Blaster is 83mm wide (3,22835 "), 104mm (4,09449") high and 198mm (7,79528") long. I think I found the problem one problem. see here the scope is a litte it wider away from the main block, I think so and here is my holster build. hope it helps to find that problem. greetings from Germany 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 For reference, this is pretty much the only top down shot from the film that shows the holstered blaster: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 4:41 AM, doubledx said: i have the same holster and maby the same blaster from Strider I check the dimensions and there a some difference. The Blaster is 83mm wide (3,22835 "), 104mm (4,09449") high and 198mm (7,79528") long. I think I found the problem one problem. see here the scope is a litte it wider away from the main block, I think so and here is my holster build. hope it helps to find that problem. greetings from Germany Yep that is the issue. The scope should not be away from the pistol body as you can see in my LFL photos above. I Spoke to Mark and am sending him one of my pistols. Not sure if he is making an additional holster or just changing the current one to fit. IMO, i think making it more shallow on the outside and leaving a little more room on the boot side can help so it can be built to fit either blaster design. I know for a while a lot of blasters were made with the scope like that, but with the better reference we have now, its clear that the scope should be against the pistol body. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledx Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 yes I'm agree with it, the blaster is a little bit wider as yours. ok, but why has 762 the problem with 1" space in the holster ? it is great that you send mark a blaster, hope he will find the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 @Darth Voorhees i would hope that @sskunky makes a new holster to fit dvh blaster rather than rework the original CFO/Strider holster as its designed for the strider blaster. but, then would he make other holsters for other makes of blasters?@doubledx thanks for adding all your measurements. from what i see we are pretty close on with everything in our builds, nothing that stands out. so, i do believe the issue is in the blaster. with @Darth Voorhees and @Strider blasters being different and me having the older version of the dvh's blasters i can account for a little more than 1/2" gap ... but, that is not 1" so, im still needing to make up 1/2" somewhere. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledx Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 6:14 PM, 762s said: @doubledx thanks for adding all your measurements. from what i see we are pretty close on with everything in our builds, nothing that stands out. so, i do believe the issue is in the blaster. yes, I compared your measurements with mine and they are pretty close. the issue is the blaster. I hope Mark has a good idea to handle this, a smaller curve ? we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Voorhees Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I was actually at Tom Spina's shop and he had a production scout pistol there at the time, and mine is only off by fractions. Also, I sent CFO one of my blasters and he sent me pictures of it in his holster. in Stider/CFO holster: In RS holster (which is off a production suit) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just to add to this my is a perfect fit just like the pictures posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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