what scout armor is RS using?

[762s]

someone brought this to my attention and ive been studying the pics and theres something odd with RS's armor, mainly on the front.
 
so, scouts ... 
what armor is RS using?  


the front is different  and the back has some things i see that are not the same
~ front is flat at the neck -- RS's is rounded at the neck
~ on the back right shoulder inside edge the screen used one has a slight curve or "s" if you look at it closely --  RS's is defined straight edge
~ and the open area(black section) looks abit bigger in the screen used
~ and then on the right back outside edge there is a bump/hump on the right edge on both sets

and then we get to the "V" 
~ at the top/neck line area of the RS armor the top of the "V" its round and doesnt come to the edge of the armor as well its wide
~ the screen used comes to a sharp point(not wide), it doesnt have a defined rounded edge and the "V" comes to the edge of the armor

i marked the areas i mentioned above in the pics below....


so, your thoughts?

 

[CatfoodRob]

Can you show the full photo of the scout you are referencing to please ? 

[762s]

1 hour ago, CatfoodRob said:

Can you show the full photo of the scout you are referencing to please ? 

any full scout looks like the photo from the book with a flat neck area. 
if i remember right the bust pic is from the star wars costume book


heres more screen used scouts with flat neck area





 

 

the pic below is from Star Wars Helmets
"Below, here's a great shot from Brinn 71 of him wearing one of the original Biker Scout costumes when doing some work for Lucasfilm a few years back ....."

[762s]

heres RS's next to the dummy 

you can clearly see the chest is not right.   the "V" is opened up pretty wide at the bottom of the chest 

??

 

[CatfoodRob]

The famous dummy photo (as you called it ) has one of the folded chest plates , like I believe , the m.o.m. Scout . 

You can clearly see the front vent has been heated up and folded in . 

The reason Is  that the chest piece is quite wide under the armpits, so they heated and squished the v at the front on several suits. 

Of you look at the close up,of the m.o.m. Chest , the fold is clear , as it is on the dummy photo . This possibly gives a squarer look to the neck cutout . 

The rear of the armour is simply a return edge difference. 

 

[762s]

2 hours ago, CatfoodRob said:

The famous dummy photo (as you called it ) has one of the folded chest plates , like I believe , the m.o.m. Scout . 

You can clearly see the front vent has been heated up and folded in . 

The reason Is  that the chest piece is quite wide under the armpits, so they heated and squished the v at the front on several suits. 

Of you look at the close up,of the m.o.m. Chest , the fold is clear , as it is on the dummy photo . This possibly gives a squarer look to the neck cutout . 

The rear of the armour is simply a return edge difference. 

 

all other scouts have folded/heated armor then?  i dont think so!

theres a big difference in being round to being flat ... heating an folding wont make a flat area round and vise versa without a major change in appearance .

all those scouts and more have a distinct flat area in the chest armor

 

[CatfoodRob]

The two photos you referenced against both had pinched fronts , after that they all look like RS to my eyes . I think you are now clutching at straws to make your assumed point , which is all very silly .

after forty years we finally get screen accurate armour and all you want to do is criticise it ... you have really lost me on your reasoning . 

Ill leave you to it . 

[Whiskey]

Here are images of armor with a curvature 

 

Maybe its it’s just a trimming anomaly during production. 

Tight schedule could result in non-consistent trimming 

[762s]

5 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

Here are images of armor with a curvature 

(snip)(snip)(snip)

Maybe its it’s just a trimming anomaly during production. 

Tight schedule could result in non-consistent trimming 

wheres the first pic from?


and the other 2 are stunt armors?  right?


so could RS got their hands on stunt armor?

[Whiskey]

The first is a pre-production pic with the side thigh armor

 

The second is I believe Dickey

 

also here’s one more with the controversial neck seal

[762s]

20 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

The first is a pre-production pic with the side thigh armor

 

The second is I believe Dickey

 

also here’s one more with the controversial neck seal

ahh, yeah ... i didnt even notice the thigh armor haha

and the speeder bike pic is one i had looked at ... but, its flat, looking at the left side top edge from center, and looks rounded on the right side.  angel issue?

interesting ... 

[BikerScout007]

There's definitely some differences.  Many of those can be attributed to trimming issues.  But there's no doubt RS has come the closest to the screen used.   

Without being from the same molds and the same production methods they will never be perfect.  But compared to some of the other armors out there, they are way out in front.

[Digger]

Looking at the pre production picture with the hip pieces, that one has the V-curve, just like RS. But it also has the little V-cut at the bottomcentre of the chest. Now Pandatrooper said this in his SC tutorial:

On 7/29/2012 at 11:28 PM, Pandatrooper said:

Many of the screen scouts had a V shaped notch cut into the bottom of the chest armor, so that they would flex when in the riding position on speeder bikes and for comfort / stunts (I assume) ... ... 

I cut the notch out. I actually found that for whatever reason, the chest was slightly wider than the back armor. Because I am a slim build, I wanted to reshape the chest slightly. After cutting the notch, I heated the chest armor along the center seam and bent it inwards to reduce the outer width.

Note that the RS also has this little V-cut. When you do this you also create a more V-like neck.

 

On 2/16/2019 at 5:32 PM, 762s said:

 

 

In the Not Flat picture, it seems as if the return edges were folded back less than in the original on the right, but this would also be a visual side effect of bending the entire chestpiece.

Pictures of a side view are really missing.

 

I am no expert but i am guessing, that the RS one has been fixed to match it's wearer. Makes me wonder how much of this fixing is done during manufactoring? We will see soon enough

[Dart]

As Mickey pointed out, it's possibly a trimming issue. I'd also point out that we don't know which armour was used by RS to produce this armour. Is it possible that there were differences between the hero and stunt armour? Were hero and stunt armour made differently or at all? We know that there was some variation as to how the tank toppers were painted up and marked. It's possible that the armour was also strapped tighter so that's one explanation for the V to be wider.

In the end, the rest of the armour does seem to be correctly proportioned to what we see on screen.