Scout gets a new home

[Frank75139]

So I’m not sure if this is where I should post a build so if not someone let me know but this is what I have. Please look it over and see if it looks good. If there are any questions about things I can get a closer pic of it. Want to make sure it’s all gonna pass before I start working on it. This was a used scout on its way to being 501st approved but life derailed the maker so I’m gonna finish what little is left to do. I would think it’s rare to find a complete used set where everything fits but from boots to suit this fits perfect. These questions and what not are for me cause I know nothing. I am in no way trying to knock the original maker as I think he did a great job on this and greatly appreciate the head start he’s given me.

 

 

Things needed to do....

 

Mount the helmet lens. Any ideas? Just glue it to the ridge?

 

 

Shot of the back to make sure it’s all good

 

 

Armor needs new elastic on some pieces, easy fix. He also added velcro to the tips to help hold them onto the flight suit. Is this what everyone else does? Only other suit I’ve seen was held on with the elastic and magnets sewn into the suit.

 

 

Not sure what you call this but the elastic is a bit too short. An extra inch or two would be great. The elastic is sewn and I’m not good at sewing so rather then ripping the seam and attempting to resew I was gonna cut the elastic in the middle (under the crotch) and add an inch or two with some glue. I did it on my TK with some elastic and it worked well.

 

 

And I’ve got the flight suit and some material to do the patches on it but I’m not sure if I’ve got enough to do all three. Are there any other modifications needed on the suit other then that and the elastic on the legs? Again I don’t sew so this will probably be done professionally once I find a decent place. This is the part that worries me cause I don’t want to mess up patches and have to redo them leaving holes in the suit.

 

 

Questions I have....

 

When I have the helmet on and I look down the front falls open. It’s not a lot but I’d rather none at all. Is there a fix for this? I was gonna try and tighten the screws but don’t want to make it hard to open. I’ve seen velcro used but I’m not keen on that idea which is weird cause I loved velcro on all my TK stuff, was thinking magnets maybe.

 

Is this the proper way to wear the bund? Wasn’t sure if it’s over the armor, at the armor, or under the armor? Also how does everyone attach the boxes to the bund?

 

 

 

Does this look good? I’ve only seen one other scout in person and his shoulders weren’t connected to the shoulder bridge. He used a different mounting method to keep it all straight. Wasn’t sure what’s easiest. Also the chest is connected by elastic and the shoulders have velcro elastic around the bicep to keep them on.

 

 

Gotta make a few minor adjustments to my TK for a weekend troop so I’m not gonna be getting much done on this. I’d actually like to get the lens installed and I’m gonna use the rest of the plastidip I have from my TK on the helmet. I just like the way it looks. So feel free to shout out any questions, comments, and answers or even criticism.

 

 

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[BikerScout007]

The bund goes about an inch under the chest armor and stops right around the belt area

 

 

That strap we refer to as the cod strap and you are right it is waaaaaaaaaaaay too short. Unless you've been gelded that's gonna be super uncomfortable. I don't really sew either but I've replaced codpiece straps before and it's pretty simple to just go in a straight line on the machine. I'd trust that more than glue

 

The suit needs: the butt pockets removed, a mandarin collar made (use the fabric from the removed pockets), a suede butt flap sewn to the back, riding patches sewn to the inner thighs and elastic thigh straps looping around the outside of the leg and connecting to the riding patches.

 

I don't have a pic handy but there are several exampled in the Biker Scout Soft Goods forum

 

http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showforum=145&st=0

[Frank75139]

The bund goes about an inch under the chest armor and stops right around the belt area

 

 

That strap we refer to as the cod strap and you are right it is waaaaaaaaaaaay too short. Unless you've been gelded that's gonna be super uncomfortable. I don't really sew either but I've replaced codpiece straps before and it's pretty simple to just go in a straight line on the machine. I'd trust that more than glue

 

The suit needs: the butt pockets removed, a mandarin collar made (use the fabric from the removed pockets), a suede butt flap sewn to the back, riding patches sewn to the inner thighs and elastic thigh straps looping around the outside of the leg and connecting to the riding patches.

 

I don't have a pic handy but there are several exampled in the Biker Scout Soft Goods forum

 

http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showforum=145&st=0

 

Thanks

 

Pockets have been removed already and the suit has a collar. Not sure if it was added or original. Does this work?

 

 

 

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[BikerScout007]

It looks right. as long as it closes like a Mandarin collar you are all good!

[Frank75139]

It does when I wear it

 

 

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[Frank75139]

I’ve been wondering is there a distance the shoulder bells have to be to the shoulder bridges? I’ve been reading through the Lancer applications and it looks like everyone’s bells sit close to the brigades. Is this how it should be? I know I was shot down with my TK first time around cause they weren’t close enough.

 

 

 

 

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[Chopper]

I’ve been wondering is there a distance the shoulder bells have to be to the shoulder bridges? I’ve been reading through the Lancer applications and it looks like everyone’s bells sit close to the brigades. Is this how it should be? I know I was shot down with my TK first time around cause they weren’t close enough.

 

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There's no specific number for shoulder bridge to shoulder bell distance and no one is going to ask you to show the distance with a ruler ha ha. They should be relatively close and equidistant on both sides.

 

However, to give some sense of scale, the top edge of my shoulder bells are about an inch away from the bridges. Try something in that ballpark, give us a look, and we can provide feedback.

[BikerScout007]

I use an inch as my measurement as well

[Aliaz]

Me too.

[Frank75139]

Ok so I need some input. Basically from the previous conversation I feel I need to bring the shoulders higher. Other then that I need a new cummerbund, unless anyone know how to extend it and keep it looking good. And I still don’t get that patches so they aren’t there either. Lastly I didn’t have my balaclava on, have one just took some quick pics and didn’t want to get it. Feedback is appreciated.

 

Added info, I’ve just been told my helmet is too weathered and I need to weather it down a bit. Any suggestions on how to take some weathering off? It was there when I bought it but apparently it’s acrylic paint and alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[BikerScout007]

Just my opinion but I would lose all those soft goods and start over again

 

First, the pouches are too big. We recommend 6x5x2 for pouch dimensions, with a 2 inch attachment tab at the top

 

The bund appears to be the right height, should be between 8 and 10 inches high. It just looks like you need one a bit wider so that it connects right in the back.

 

And I'm not sure what's up with that codpiece. I've seen a few of these floating around and I need to find out who makes them and tell them to stop it! The cod doesn't go down straight on the sides and then funnel out at the bottom. It should look more like this:

 

 

So that it looks like this when you wear it:

 

 

I would trim maybe an inch off the shoulder bells and use zipties so they sit closer to the shoulder bridge. That distance should only be about an inch.

[Frank75139]

Just my opinion but I would lose all those soft goods and start over again

 

First, the pouches are too big. We recommend 6x5x2 for pouch dimensions, with a 2 inch attachment tab at the top

 

The bund appears to be the right height, should be between 8 and 10 inches high. It just looks like you need one a bit wider so that it connects right in the back.

 

And I'm not sure what's up with that codpiece. I've seen a few of these floating around and I need to find out who makes them and tell them to stop it! The cod doesn't go down straight on the sides and then funnel out at the bottom. It should look more like this:

 

 

So that it looks like this when you wear it:

 

 

I would trim maybe an inch off the shoulder bells and use zipties so they sit closer to the shoulder bridge. That distance should only be about an inch.

 

Appreciate the help. Any direction on where to buy quality soft goods?

 

 

 

 

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[BikerScout007]

Appreciate the help. Any direction on where to buy quality soft goods?

 

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As DL I can't endorse particular vendors. All I can say is check the trade forum, check the vendor list, look at photos and do your research. And when you get your pouches made, tell the maker you want them 6x5x2

[Frank75139]

Looking into a new bund. Checked my boxes and they are 6x5x2 and I do see the difference in the cod pieces. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

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[ShaunPug]

If you want to go the extra mile I would say to try and remove all of the weathering and start that from scratch as well. If you need help with that there are a few threads on the armor forum about how to do it. Strider's "Lancer Build Tutorial" thread also covers how to achieve an accurate look with minimal effort.

Super cool you inherited all this stuff! Welcome to the Pathfinders!

[Frank75139]

While putting my scout in for submission pics i broke a bracket on the detonator clips. Anyone have a good cheap fix for this? Looks like the ones I came with it are plastic, do most people use metal?




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[Frank75139]

While I’m at it anything look like it’ll hold me up for approval?

 

 

 

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[Chopper]

Hey Frank! Looks like you've made some great improvements in your build. Awesome work.

For basic approval, the major items that stand out to me are:

1) your bund is drooping in the back

2) your drop boxes are pitched too far frontwards

3) your mud flap looks too wide

4) Your knee armor is on upside down

Those should be easy to fix by pulling you bund up and pushing the belt boxes back a bit, so that they're centered. Are you using anything to attach your bund to the vest?

For the mud flap, Level 1 of the CRL states that the "flap is slightly narrower than the width of the trooper and stops just above the troopers backside." I'm visually guesstimating, but it looks about an inch too wide on each side.

For the detonator clips, many of us use these and rivet them in (riveting might not be an option, since your TD tube is already finished: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010EAQUEU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You're really close. Keep it up!

 

[Frank75139]

Hey Frank! Looks like you've made some great improvements in your build. Awesome work.
For basic approval, the major items that stand out to me are:
1) your bund is drooping in the back
2) your drop boxes are pitched too far frontwards
3) your mud flap looks too wide
4) Your knee armor is on upside down
Those should be easy to fix by pulling you bund up and pushing the belt boxes back a bit, so that they're centered. Are you using anything to attach your bund to the vest?
For the mud flap, Level 1 of the CRL states that the "flap is slightly narrower than the width of the trooper and stops just above the troopers backside." I'm visually guesstimating, but it looks about an inch too wide on each side.
You're really close. Keep it up!
 

Lol didn’t even realize the knee armor was upside down, thanks for pointing that out to me. I was looking at the belt boxes as well but wasn’t sure, I’ll work on adjusting them tomorrow/this weekend. I do not have the bund attached to the vest, should I use velcro? The issue with the bund is its a tad too small I think. It’s the 3rd one I’ve bought (long story) so I’m not getting a new one. Would the velcro help the sag?


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[Chopper]

3 minutes ago, Frank75139 said:

Would the velcro help the sag?

Yeah, that's how my bund is attached to my vest.

[Frank75139]

Yeah, that's how my bund is attached to my vest.

Ok this started out as seriously trying to mark the pic up to ask a question and it turned into a face. I’m assuming the velcro circled in red is for the bund but what’s the two in blue for?




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[Chopper]

Oh, those are b/c I'm relatively small and my chest armor was constantly drooping backwards while moving around. I put a little velcro under the chest armor and that kept it from shifting back. Just a personal preference to try and keep my own rig together. You wouldn't necessarily need it unless it was an issue.

[Frank75139]

Oh, those are b/c I'm relatively small and my chest armor was constantly drooping backwards while moving around. I put a little velcro under the chest armor and that kept it from shifting back. Just a personal preference to try and keep my own rig together. You wouldn't necessarily need it unless it was an issue.

Ok I always like seeing everyone’s tips and tricks, you never know when it’ll come in handy. Thanks.


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[Chopper]

Here's a thread I made last year with some tips and tricks. Feel free to take what you need from it. 

 

[Frank75139]

Here's a thread I made last year with some tips and tricks. Feel free to take what you need from it. 
 

It’s crazy reading through how use use velcro on everything. When I did my TK everyone on FISD is all about snaps, snaps here, snaps there, and I used velcro. I find it easier and more convenient especially with slight weight lose and gain or even just a reposition. There were some good tips in there, I appreciate it.


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