Army Scout Posted June 5, 2006 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 I was just using that image of the mollie gear to show the straps not a sugestion to mod that vest. Even though that may not be a bad idea Tigger, in order for the vest to work, the top of it would have to match the camo scheme, this image does not show any solid color on the shoulders... And for the middle needing to be painted....looks like a solid green to me... I think the pouches make up for the camo on the lower part of the vest. Army Scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tk465 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yeah the midsection fabric looks green to me as well at least in the screen caps. I was thinking more of the pouches needed the paint but yes you do make a good point that they would probably be the same material as the camo jumpsuit. The thing that leaves me scratching my head is when you look at the photo of the BARC trooper in the Revenge of the Sith visual dictionary...the vest, cummerbun or whatever it's going to be referred to doesn't quite look the same as the screen caps....the thing looks grey in the photo in the book and the front midsection almost reminds me of boneing that you would see in a corsette to stiffen the front panel....my wife sews corsettes for her stuff and thats what sent me down that tangent. I do like the way the thread has progressed...my biggest concern would be to start sewing the thing only to have the general consensus of the group changing. Heck I wouldn't mind starting the thing today but the fear of missing something in one of the screen caps keeps me away from diving into the project. So getting back to the cummerbun...in the custom outfit I made I ended up sewing the pouches right to the fabric and then running a suspender over the shoulder to hold it in place. I was thinking that this would be the same general arrangement for the BARC but with the web gear supporting the majority of the pouches...also I noticed in the visual dictionary photo that a belt does appear to be holding the pouches along the wastline to the body. Are you farmiliar with the photo I'm talking about? Hopefully everyone can agree on a solution soon since I'm egar to get cracking on the sewing part at least of the outfit...then I can finish making the patternes for the armor. "Tigger" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Scout Posted June 5, 2006 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 Can you scan and post that image??? I think we all are pretty much agree that vest idea is the way we should go. Camo top and OD green mid. I think the mollie straps are real close. The pouches look like a mix of hard and soft pouches. Army Scout Yeah the midsection fabric looks green to me as well at least in the screen caps. I was thinking more of the pouches needed the paint but yes you do make a good point that they would probably be the same material as the camo jumpsuit. The thing that leaves me scratching my head is when you look at the photo of the BARC trooper in the Revenge of the Sith visual dictionary...the vest, cummerbun or whatever it's going to be referred to doesn't quite look the same as the screen caps....the thing looks grey in the photo in the book and the front midsection almost reminds me of boneing that you would see in a corsette to stiffen the front panel....my wife sews corsettes for her stuff and thats what sent me down that tangent. I do like the way the thread has progressed...my biggest concern would be to start sewing the thing only to have the general consensus of the group changing. Heck I wouldn't mind starting the thing today but the fear of missing something in one of the screen caps keeps me away from diving into the project. So getting back to the cummerbun...in the custom outfit I made I ended up sewing the pouches right to the fabric and then running a suspender over the shoulder to hold it in place. I was thinking that this would be the same general arrangement for the BARC but with the web gear supporting the majority of the pouches...also I noticed in the visual dictionary photo that a belt does appear to be holding the pouches along the wastline to the body. Are you farmiliar with the photo I'm talking about? Hopefully everyone can agree on a solution soon since I'm egar to get cracking on the sewing part at least of the outfit...then I can finish making the patternes for the armor. "Tigger" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tk465 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 I'll e-mail it to you. It's kinda hard to scan.... and some of the detail from the original photo gets lost...but it does look like a grey color with wide strips sewn into the fabric at least in this photo "Tigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Scout Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 I'll e-mail it to you. It's kinda hard to scan.... and some of the detail from the original photo gets lost...but it does look like a grey color with wide strips sewn into the fabric at least in this photo "Tigger Ok got the image... Got to look at it a bit more... Army Scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghfett Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Sweet, you guys rock with the pics... Is that a belt I see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tk465 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yes that is indeed a belt in that particular picture...that's where I was going with the web gear straping tangent.... you can almost see some flat grey suspenders going from the long pouch up underneath the chest armor....it's a lot more noticeable in the actual photo as is the color...which is not really like the screen caps.... "Tigger" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Scout Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yes that is indeed a belt in that particular picture...that's where I was going with the web gear straping tangent.... you can almost see some flat grey suspenders going from the long pouch up underneath the chest armor....it's a lot more noticeable in the actual photo as is the color...which is not really like the screen caps.... "Tigger" We need to remember one thing, in order to be a canon costume it has to be screen accurate. The problem I am seeing is the book art is different than the screen stuff. Be very carefull if you are using something other then screen caps for reference. Army Scout Just found this too... $20.00! Might be worth looking into. With a few cuts here and there, this might be a great choice for the bottom of the BARC vest. Army Scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimus mime Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 good find, Army Scout that looks darn close to me. Although the shoulder straps look a little wide, and you would have to paint the snaps on the front too. But with a little mod work, I think you might have something here. It even has belt loops connected to it, which I think could help the BARC's mid-section from riding or being out of place. Here is a question I have: Are the 2 front pouches on the BARC's vest, made of armor? From the screen caps it appears to be camo'd the same and looks like it is "made" from the same "material" as the rest of his armor. What say you BSN crew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherHalo Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 I say those boxes are hard. Or perhaps possibly hard-lined. Fabric outer, rigid box shape inside. Something similar to the scout pouch, but to the extreme of lining it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Scout Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 good find, Army Scout that looks darn close to me. Although the shoulder straps look a little wide, and you would have to paint the snaps on the front too. But with a little mod work, I think you might have something here. It even has belt loops connected to it, which I think could help the BARC's mid-section from riding or being out of place. Here is a question I have: Are the 2 front pouches on the BARC's vest, made of armor? From the screen caps it appears to be camo'd the same and looks like it is "made" from the same "material" as the rest of his armor. What say you BSN crew? Well, we were thinking of cutting off the shoulder straps and sewing on a custom shoulder strap. (In the proper camo pattern). Now the zipper, just going to use the back as the front The small boxes look like armored boxes, the larger ones cloth. Army Scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghst915 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 You know guys my girlfriend is a pro-seamstress and says that the flak/vest should be made out of a some kind of vinyl for the ribbed area with 1" wide or so pieces runnning up and down sewen on only where the lines are on them and make the top vest out of a good breathable cloth again as a one piece unit. Maybe with the soft pouches sewn on also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB5994 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I agree with it being of a similar look to the molle vests around, but the strappings all wrong. THe Molle system runs horizontally, where as the barc system seems to run vertically, although i'd love to find the simple way to make one, it seems to me its too different to be used without removing all the strapping and re attaching it vertically. Agreed on the pouches ArmyScout, smaller ones in abs, larger ones, in material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylikhan Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I'm sure we could mod something like this to get the pouches in the correct locations on the torso. Still talking with my nephew about this, he might have more sources to look into at Bragg,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVe Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 What happened to all the reference pictures of the BARC midsection that used to be associated with this post? Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVe Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I think I have found a decent base vest. Please take a look at this and give some feedback. --> VEST <-- It looks like it might work. Just add some 1" vertical elastic straps and you got yourself a BARC vest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladyghost4459 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I think a lot of pictures got moved with the last server shift and the links were broken. Probably will need to repost the pictures from another location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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