Tjeccles Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Except for the obvious difference in color, what are the differences between the two kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 As far as I know, the hard armor parts are the same. Soft parts aswell, except the elastic straps used to secure them are a different width on the Shadow compared to the Scout Trooper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You would have to check Spec Ops to be sure. I know the vest is not a requirement http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=18962 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 the other two troops above pretty much covered it. us shadow scouts get to carry differnt weapons too having both kits myself ... i think i love my biker scout more, and i think more people will recognize a biker scout over the shadow scout. also, the pathfinder biker scout section is way more active than the specops shadow scouts...its pretty dead over there maybe , that goes with what i was saying above...people recognize the biker more!?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjeccles Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Thanks, I'll probably start with regular Biker Scout then and get the Shadow kit later. Recognition makes sense, as more people have seen the movies. I read the context for the shadow scout and it said it was from one of the comics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I will say: the first time I went to an MLB Star Wars Night, the first character I saw was a Shadow Scout. Not being well versed in the EU, I called him a Black Biker Scout. It was awesome. To the best of my knowledge the build in and of itself is the same. The strapping, trimming, cutting of the armor, etc. You could absolutely build approvable black armor from bsn info. But to be 110% certain, I would head over to the spec ops forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Thanks, I'll probably start with regular Biker Scout then and get the Shadow kit later. Recognition makes sense, as more people have seen the movies. I read the context for the shadow scout and it said it was from one of the comics. That is correct! Most of Spec Ops' costumes are from the Expanded Universe, so comics, books and video games. The Storm Commando isn't exactly just a biker scout colored black but that's what their CRL calls for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJay Irish Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Another very subtle (but important) difference is that at the very base level with the flightsuit, the shadow scout doesn’t need the suede butt flap or riding patch between the thighs. I’m a standard scout, and personally that was the worst part to do yourself lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 That is correct! Most of Spec Ops' costumes are from the Expanded Universe, so comics, books and video games. The Storm Commando isn't exactly just a biker scout colored black but that's what their CRL calls for. us shadow scouts are not storm commandos Another very subtle (but important) difference is that at the very base level with the flightsuit, the shadow scout doesn’t need the suede butt flap or riding patch between the thighs. I’m a standard scout, and personally that was the worst part to do yourself lol. just for you i will have to add that into my proposal for crl change over there ~ADD to basic Black real suede riding patch on the inside of the thighs and over the seat of the suit. Real black suede square posterior patch attached to flight suit at the rear, under where cummerbund will sit, and resembles those seen on screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 us shadow scouts are not storm commandos just for you i will have to add that into my proposal for crl change over there ~ADD to basic Black real suede riding patch on the inside of the thighs and over the seat of the suit. Real black suede square posterior patch attached to flight suit at the rear, under where cummerbund will sit, and resembles those seen on screen. Not what it says here, my dude..... http://starwars.wiki.../Storm_commando "The storm commandos, also known as Imperial commandos or shadow scouts, were the Special forces of the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps. One task for storm commandos was to instigate uprisings on enemy systems or to subdue insurrections on Imperial-held worlds. They also served as second-wave attackers in the battlefield, tasked with holding territory won by the first wave." I've never seen a picture from the EU that just shows a Biker Scout colored black without other changes to the armor and boots as well. But if you have one, let's see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Not what it says here, my dude..... http://starwars.wiki.../Storm_commando "The storm commandos, also known as Imperial commandos or shadow scouts, were the Special forces of the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps. One task for storm commandos was to instigate uprisings on enemy systems or to subdue insurrections on Imperial-held worlds. They also served as second-wave attackers in the battlefield, tasked with holding territory won by the first wave." I've never seen a picture from the EU that just shows a Biker Scout colored black without other changes to the armor and boots as well. But if you have one, let's see it! i know ... its just a funny argument to me but, with the references out there and even with the way specops detachment has the two separated and settup ... we are different. actually, there is no storm commando costume crl yet. we have references(pics/figures) but, i dont know why the costume crl hasnt been made storm commandos have a different helmet and some different armor than the shadow (black biker) scout so, technically the shadow scout is an all black biker scout ... i dont know why people say its not. when there is a clear difference between the storm commando and the shadow scout. and it has about the same amount of references(pics/figures) as the storm commando but, it costume crl was made .. idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 i know ... its just a funny argument to me but, with the references out there and even with the way specops detachment has the two separated and settup ... we are different. actually, there is no storm commando costume crl yet. we have references(pics/figures) but, i dont know why the costume crl hasnt been made storm commandos have a different helmet and some different armor than the shadow (black biker) scout so, technically the shadow scout is an all black biker scout ... i dont know why people say its not. when there is a clear difference between the storm commando and the shadow scout. and it has about the same amount of references(pics/figures) as the storm commando but, it costume crl was made .. idk Are there actual Shadow Scout pics where it is just a black biker scout without any other differences? Because I have never seen one. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Are there actual Shadow Scout pics where it is just a black biker scout without any other differences? Because I have never seen one. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk well, this is where i disagree with the specops crl and i have submitted a proposal for a change, and im getting interest from the command with it there are shadow scout references they are using but, there are differences in all of them the only all black biker scout we can see 100% is the 1 action figure from the general weir 2 pack comic book there is a refrence pic from the cover of darth vader #17 but, its not a full view and kinda blurred up all the reference pics dont add up to what the crl has for shadow scout darth vader #17 action figure --- all black biker scout these from the comic book are close too ... but not quite an all black biker scout (boots look off and theres a double thigh strap) from there the refrence pics become useless showing a black bicker scout as things like odd shoulder bells, lights on the belt, backpacks ect.ect. are showing. storm commandos between the 2 costumes ... the look of each of them is why i say they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerscout73 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Not a fan of the shadow, swamp, or snow scout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Not a fan of the shadow, swamp, or snow scout. Only the original will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 well, this is where i disagree with the specops crl and i have submitted a proposal for a change, and im getting interest from the command with it there are shadow scout references they are using but, there are differences in all of them the only all black biker scout we can see 100% is the 1 action figure from the general weir 2 pack comic book there is a refrence pic from the cover of darth vader #17 but, its not a full view and kinda blurred up all the reference pics dont add up to what the crl has for shadow scout darth vader #17 action figure --- all black biker scout these from the comic book are close too ... but not quite an all black biker scout (boots look off and theres a double thigh strap) from there the refrence pics become useless showing a black bicker scout as things like odd shoulder bells, lights on the belt, backpacks ect.ect. are showing. storm commandos between the 2 costumes ... the look of each of them is why i say they are different. So the only actual Black Biker Scout is the toy? When was that released? That doesn't seem to reach the level of "3 sources" that a costume requires to have a CRL made for it. Even the White Kashyyyk has more sources than that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerscout73 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Only the original will do Amen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So the only actual Black Biker Scout is the toy? When was that released? That doesn't seem to reach the level of "3 sources" that a costume requires to have a CRL made for it. Even the White Kashyyyk has more sources than that! i know, and i agree with you there .. that has been my dilemma with the command and this costume. how did the all black scout come to be in the crl? seems to me it has alot to do with some personal preferences of what the command at that time wanted to see as a scout. needless to say i dont agree with some of there opinions on the crl and it is one reason i havent gone for specialist with that costume as well, im asking for changes in this costumes crl. there is just to many inconsistencies with what we see and what the crl says. and i think the toy was released 2009 ... thats what my comic 2 pack figures box has for a date 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 i know, and i agree with you there .. that has been my dilemma with the command and this costume. how did the all black scout come to be in the crl? seems to me it has alot to do with some personal preferences of what the command at that time wanted to see as a scout. needless to say i dont agree with some of there opinions on the crl and it is one reason i havent gone for specialist with that costume as well, im asking for changes in this costumes crl. there is just to many inconsistencies with what we see and what the crl says. and i think the toy was released 2009 ... thats what my comic 2 pack figures box has for a date I just think the costume should look like the comic book references. But this wouldn't be the first time the 501st created a character for a CRL. Snow scout is pretty much the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjeccles Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 That last picture of the Storm Commandos looks more like the comic cover for the Shadow Scout to me, especially compared to the picture right above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 That last picture of the Storm Commandos looks more like the comic cover for the Shadow Scout to me, especially compared to the picture right above it. the major difference is the angle of the visor ... then the snout is another difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjeccles Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 I can see the snout difference. Not seeing the visor angle but I am on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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