762s Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 alright, i have been thinking on something and wonder if it has been brought up before or if anyone has ever thought of doing this. i have a couple thoughts ... one is to have all the biker scouts we know throughout the legion contact hi-tec and try to see if there would be anyway for them to remake the sierra sneaker that so many of us would like to own. i was thinking that if hundreds of biker scouts or more could send hi-tec a request email maybe, the volume of letters they received would show them that there would be a cause to release the shoe again. of course we would need the correct contact information for the letters to go to so, our hundreds of requests do not land on deaf ears. i really dont think mass emails would good idea though! and they might not be directed to right person! so, would we be wasting our time with that method? sooo... my second thought, would be reaching out to the owners, chairman or head of the company frank van wezel and his son ed be a better way to go about something like this? from my research frank has a public email and responds to them and its in every box they ship out and well i found it on their chairmans statement too ... "At Hi-Tec, we want to be transparent. If there is something on your mind about our brand or products, you can email me directly at (XXXX i removed it). This email address is also printed in every shoebox we send out. I know that the consumer of 2015 is extremely knowledgeable and knows exactly what he or she needs and expects from our products. What consumers tell me will be incorporated in our future offering – I guarantee you this. I want us to create a product with actual and relevant added value. Thank you all for putting your faith in our team and for making it all possible. I LOVE MY JOB! Frank van Wezel Chairman Hi-Tec Sports International Holdings B.V." so, with that said .. i wonder if that would be a better way to go about it ... but, we obviously do not want to flood the guys with emails and make them upset either. and some other questions i have ... ~ do we really know if hi-tec is the original maker of the shoe/boot? ~ do we know the exact name of the series/style of the shoe/boot? ~ is inter the original maker of the shoe/boot? ~ if hi-tec merged with inter did they get the rights/molds/patterns for this shoe/boot and still have them? ~ did hit-tec make the boot or get the rights to create the boot if inter was the original? ~ why did they stop making the boot? was it still made after the movie release? ~ is a petition the right way to show them that this boot is wanted? whats another way? ~ is there any other thoughts on this from you all? ~ is there a better way of showing how wanted the shoe/boot is to these guys? id really like to see if we can make something like this happen, a re-release of the biker scout boot! discuss, share thoughts and ideas please ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCwerewolf Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 What's the background on this saga? What do these legendary leather personnel carriers look like? What made them so popular? Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 well, they are the original biker scout boot, screen used boot! have a look at the link below for a similar style of the boot ... the inter boot shown is not the exact style of boot as the ones we look for have the horizontal line in them on the back sole. http://forum.bikersc...?showtopic=7133 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It's been talked about in the past. It would take a ton of interest to get them back into production. Not to be a joy kill,but I highly doubt it would happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImpact Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I agree, probably a nearly-impossible long uphill road to get them back into any kind of actual production, but I completely understand and agree with the sentiment of wanting to have really screen-accurate boots. I do the occasional eBay search just in case. I think one approach that might actually have some chance of bearing fruit with the company might be to see if there might be some chance to at least get some access to the original sole pattern for an accurate mold or 3D scan to be made so that proper-sized reproductions might be retrofitted to existing similar/cheaper boots like we have all been using up until now. That ought not be too difficult a task for a good cobbler... Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It's a compromise, but you might have more success with getting imperial boots or a similar costume footwear manufacturer to make a similar style sneaker with the requisite features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 There's actually a thread on here from way back...over 10 years back I think where someone did just as you are proposing. Long story short, the company was totally for re-making the sneakers if they had enough guaranteed interest, BUT the original molds were destroyed in a factory fire of some sort. No joke. So...possibly if a pair if the originals were supplied to them they might be able to replicate them. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I emailed Hi-Tec years ago.... Whilst they were 'receptive' to the idea, it was with the caveat of massive customer buy in. And we were talking thousands, if not tens of. Even if it was just the sole. In essence the crux of the conversation was 'nice idea... probably won't happen!'. Anyway, things are 'afoot', and whilst nothing may come of it (certainly not for a while yet), the idea of re-creating the sole is one that is not new and one that has always been a bit of a 'slow burner'. But burn it does... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImpact Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well, I'm all for 762s' idea, or the subset of at least just getting a reference sole recreated, so count me in for anything I can do to help. ShaunPug's and Chef's comments are encouraging... Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I think it was LW back in the day made a casting of the sole. I believe I saw it on the RPF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 hey, thanks for the replies. like 3dimpact said, the info that shaunpug and chef posted is encouraging! and looking at shaunpugs signature -- i see he has a pair, are they the correct pair? this is where im curious and unsure of what the actual version/style is ... i have yet to see a correct version and they few pics i do see in the google searches are small and or blurry! the correct version id like to see is the ones with the horizontal line running through the back sole. and yes, stroker you are right it was on rpf and looks like LW? or wolf or cfa posted about it in another place(2nd link) https://www.therpf.c...ad.php?t=125791 http://compfranon.uk...er-scout-boots/ but, even his work doesnt show the horizontal line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 hey, thanks for the replies. like 3dimpact said, the info that shaunpug and chef posted is encouraging! and looking at shaunpugs signature -- i see he has a pair, are they the correct pair? this is where im curious and unsure of what the actual version/style is ... i have yet to see a correct version and they few pics i do see in the google searches are small and or blurry! the correct version id like to see is the ones with the horizontal line running through the back sole. and yes, stroker you are right it was on rpf and looks like LW? or wolf or cfa posted about it in another place(2nd link) https://www.therpf.c...ad.php?t=125791 http://compfranon.uk...er-scout-boots/ but, even his work doesnt show the horizontal line I do have a pair of the boots! Mine are small at a size 7 (Though I can still squeeze my feet in). Ive been heavily researching the origins of the boots as well as how the original boots were put together. From what I've gathered, the Sierra Sneaker IVs were likely an iteration of the boot produced either during the production of ROTJ or after. This was around the time that INTER as a brand merged with Hi-tec. So the screen used boots were most likely an an earlier INTER version in the "Sierra Sneaker" line. I found an image online of a page from an issue of Backpacker from 1981. It listed Inter-footwear USA as having a shoe titled: "Ranger III Sierra Sneaker". I believe that those specifically may be the actual screen used boots. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImpact Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I do have a pair of the boots! Would you be willing to post a hi-res scan (just set a boot on a flat bed scanner) of the sole of one of the boots? From that and maybe a similar scan of the side wall I might be able to make a fairly convincing 3D model... Dan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Would you be willing to post a hi-res scan (just set a boot on a flat bed scanner) of the sole of one of the boots? From that and maybe a similar scan of the side wall I might be able to make a fairly convincing 3D model... Dan I think I can do that! I don't currently have them though. They're at a friend's place. As soon as I get them back I'll see what I can do. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 I found an image online of a page from an issue of Backpacker from 1981. It listed Inter-footwear USA as having a shoe titled: "Ranger III Sierra Sneaker". this is that listing.... https://books.google...Sneaker&f=false thanks for the helpful info ... still on the hunt for all the correct info on this elusive boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 this is that listing.... https://books.google...Sneaker&f=false thanks for the helpful info ... still on the hunt for all the correct info on this elusive boot The Rebel soldiers on Endor also used these boots without any sort if modification. Some photos exist online from exhibits of that costume. There is also a book that was recently released thats simply called: "Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor"... In that book there are some photos of the Scout that I believe haven't been seen before until that book was released... I think there's a photo of the boots on one of the scouts, where there are no horizontal ridges visible. If that's true, can someone confirm this? Does anybody have that book? Because if it's known and seen that some had the ridges and some didn't then maybe a few different versions of the boots were actually used. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It might also be in the Star Wars Costumes book. I have a copy and I'll take a look. I'm building an Endor commando with a friend of mine so I've been studying up on this trooper. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImpact Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 There is also a book that was recently released thats simply called: "Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor"... In that book there are some photos of the Scout that I believe haven't been seen before until that book was released... I think there's a photo of the boots on one of the scouts, where there are no horizontal ridges visible. If that's true, can someone confirm this? Does anybody have that book? Because if it's known and seen that some had the ridges and some didn't then maybe a few different versions of the boots were actually used. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Yes, I just got that book for Christmas. I shipped it back home to myself and will be back with it next Monday. I'll get any new/useful boot images that are in there up here as soon as I can... Dan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Yes, I just got that book for Christmas. I shipped it back home to myself and will be back with it next Monday. I'll get any new/useful boot images that are in there up here as soon as I can... Dan Awesome. I'm intrigued to see what's in there! Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 nice info ... thanks all! look forward to seeing what 3dimpact finds in his book ^^ search on troops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The Costume book states that the boot used for the commando was the Sierra Sneakers desert hiking boot which is the same as the scout. It looks odd without the vinyl we use to cover the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The Costume book states that the boot used for the commando was the Sierra Sneakers desert hiking boot which is the same as the scout. It looks odd without the vinyl we use to cover the top. Yep! I use the Israeli boots with Endor rebel. Very close in design. No notches in the heels and maybe just a hair darker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yep! I use the Israeli boots with Endor rebel. Very close in design. No notches in the heels and maybe just a hair darker.Mind if I pick your brain while I build mine? I could use some guidance. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Mind if I pick your brain while I build mine? I could use some guidance. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk I'm always a message or call away Peter. Anything I can help you with let me know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImpact Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 There is also a book that was recently released thats simply called: "Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor"... In that book there are some photos of the Scout that I believe haven't been seen before until that book was released... I think there's a photo of the boots on one of the scouts, where there are no horizontal ridges visible. If that's true, can someone confirm this? Does anybody have that book? Because if it's known and seen that some had the ridges and some didn't then maybe a few different versions of the boots were actually used. Okay, so I've returned from travel and was able to get at my copy of the book. Unfortunately, I don't think the one photo of the boot is all that helpful. The resolution and exposure of the image reproduced in the book doesn't really show the pattern on the side of the sole too well. We've seen better photos in other places. The mention that no horizontal ridges are visible is probably just due to the fact that the leather cover looks to have sagged a bit in the rear here, covering over the pattern we see in other, better photos. But here it is anyway... Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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