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  • 4 weeks later...

I have a question about the paints:

 

You use glossy white over grey primer,right?

Clearcoat or not?If yes..also over the stickers?

What a black do you use behind the snoutgreeblie?Matte,semigloss or gloss?

 

gloss white over grey is best, as using a white primer seems to have a slight yellowing on the gloss white

see this post here http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=18321&view=findpost&p=166573

 

no, i didnt use a clearcoat

 

and i used a gloss black behind the snout greeblie

 

hope that helps!

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well, back at it again with build #5

 

this is also my start to building helmets for commission, i have had more than a few request to build helmets.

this is my first commission build and there are several more already in the works waiting to be built.

 

 

this build will be different from the previous builds i have done.

it will have the riveted headband(not glued), a ukwraths audio system added and no 8th vent to be added

 

i received this helmet with the helmet halves, ears and eyes already cut out.

 

still had a little bit of work to do to get it built

 

left and right side jaws to show before and after return edge

notice my pencil line does not match the rs line

 

before

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after

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the profile lines

 

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the two halves still needs some trimming/sanding

almost built except the top center support for the helmet

 

want to use the wider oval shape center support as seen on one of the versions of the screen used helmets

 

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got a few more needed parts over the past couple days ...

 

and well, got the thing completely built and tweaked and ready for bondo

 

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hey bro, can you show some pics how you connected the faceplate and the two visorparts, really struggling on that since I can’t find any reference.. cheers, seb

 

 

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hey bro, can you show some pics how you connected the faceplate and the two visorparts, really struggling on that since I can’t find any reference.. cheers, seb

 

 

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alright,

 

np, ill post some more pics and info.

 

NOTE .. with my 5 kit builds the left and right sides where not the same. the molds are not symmetrical or they are just bad pulls ??

 

so, you have the 2 visor halves and the faceplate. RS also sent you a faceplate spacer you need to cut out.

 

below in the picture is the faceplate spacer -- marked in grey

and i add a small piece of abs in the vertical return edge -- marked in red, this is to prevent cracking

 

make sure the spacer is centered, if it isnt you will have a crooked visor and it wont line up properly in the front.

 

 

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so, this is where it gets tricky as i mentioned above the 2 side of the faceplate are not symmetrical.

 

what i did is cut the tip of the faceplate off around the marked green(see pic below) area so it sits inside the back of the visor

 

the blue marked area is a tapered return edge -- DONT cut or return this edge yet (marked in red)

 

youll notice in my pics the left/right side is cut funky in the visor seat and filled in, this is due to the areas not being made proper, more than likely the right side will fit like a glove(3 of the kits ive built the right side was good) .. all 5 kits i had the same issue there, some more than others.

i use CA glue with insta-set to fill the gap from the back side. i included a couple painted pics of the area too

 

the bottom curve of the ear on the faceplate sits on the bottom of the return edge on the visor or close to it

 

ill explain the return edge in the next post!

 

thanks stoutscout -- i used/edited your pics of our chats on your build questions :)

 

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this is the bonded area from the inside .. left and right sides -- multiple angles

 

notice the return edges, these are done after you have the visor faceplate put together and have the helmet built.

 

the bottom edge of the faceplate (ears) is what seats to the bottom edge of the visors return edge and it sits to the back corner of the visor.

 

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youll notice in the first pic there, the notch on the faceplate sides are abit big (this was my 1st helmet build) and i was able to fix/fill this with CA glue and insta set .. pics 4 and 5 above ;)

 

 

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return edges...

 

 

 

once you have the faceplate and visor glued together without trimming the lower faceplate cheek section. you will want to place it on the helmet and make a new line that is parallel with the helmet angle.

in the picture below the yellow line is a rough line of how far past the factory line you might go to get a nice clean angle profile.

 

the red line will be what makes the return edge.

 

thanks again stoutscout -- i used/edited your pics of our chats on your build questions :)

 

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what i do is take a thin straight edge and place it in the gap betweeen the helmet and visor and make a new line. the straight edge will sit on the lower cheeck section.

from there i make the return edge and cut the tapered edge as seen in the pics in the previous post.

i also, create the return edge before my new line and slowly trim reheat/recut/redo the return edge till i have a nice profile angle i am happy with. again, you may have to cut/heat/bend a few times to get a nice profile.

 

 

the blue line in the pic below is the area your are trying to get straight.

 

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also, youll notice in the picture above the visor is not seated all the way down to the helmet. to adjust this i use a heat gun to tweak the helmet. ill post the picture of where i heat the helmet and where i push/pull from to get the helmet to tweak and allow the visor to close properly ... just go slow with this process and have a fan nearby to cool the helmet down quickly as your holding the helmet in position. be mindful of the ears, vents, return edges as you dont want to warp them with heat.

 

this is also something i do more on the right side of the helmet. the left side doesnt need much tweaking to get the visor to close.

 

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also, when tweaking the helmet watch your return edges on the faceplate ... take a look at my pics in the previous post and youll see how small they are and that they are tapered. if your return edges are to big then when you close the helmet the return edges will be pushed out and give you a flair out on the cheeks (like efx helmets)

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top view of visor .. to allow it to open and stay locked.

youll need to go past the RS lines they provided.

 

even after cutting past the RS lines you dont want to open the visor to far, it will open further than the lock, just open it till it locks. you dont want to scratch/nick the paint.

 

here is how i cut all my helmets

 

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here is how it looks on both sides with the visor opened and locked

 

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this is my first helmet ... i opened up to far(past the lock) and chipped the paint.

 

helmet is opened and locked .. notice how far back can visor go to where the chip is?

 

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  • 1 month later...

well, its been a crazy around with the weather and now the pollen and i have not had the chance to finish this helmet ... fingers crossed this weekend will be decent paint weather....

 

anyways, some update pics ...

 

2nd bondo coat and 3rd spot putty coat, prepped for primer.

 

also, atm, the ukwraths mic will not be installed ... the volume of the device doesnt give much of a difference than when speaking normal ... :(

 

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and some ... bbb's :D

 

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good day ..

i got the first coat of primer on it, tomorrow sand and prime again.

hopefully, ill get the white on this thing this week ^_^

 

 

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first coat done ... 5-7 days de-gas period for the paint ...

 

so, i will get to do a light sand on it in a couple days and get the final coat on it next week :)

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

ncwerewolf's kit almost finished ... time to weather this beauty, lol

 

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and well, while i was waiting for paint to degas ... heres #7 built ;)

 

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well,

here is mister wolf's helmet weathered as requested ...

 

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