TB-43043 Requesting Lancer Status (APPROVED)

[Hadde]

Name: Derek Hadfield

501st ID: 43043

Garrison: Garrison Corellia

Height: 6'2"

Weight: 236 lbs

 

Helmet: Altmanns w/ KW Designs Bolts

Armor: KS/SC Hybrid

Boots: Self made

Cummerbund: Self made

Pouches: Self made

Flak vest: Self made

Gloves: Wampa Wear

Flight suit: Self made

Blaster: DVH V2 Scout Blaster

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hadde]

 

 

 

Thank you for your time and consideration!

[gmrhodes13]

Nice work, I'd look at moving your shoulders closer in, there is a big gap there, also adjust your drop box straps and connectors so they are in alignment.

 

Good luck

[Hadde]

Corrected! Thank you for the feedback sir! I tightened the shoulder bell straps and corrected the buckles on belt / drop box allignment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hadde]

Any feedback or suggestions?

 

Thank you!

[gmrhodes13]

Any feedback or suggestions?

 

Thank you!

Under review from above, these process can take some time

[Hadde]

No worries at all! I completely understand.

 

Thank you sir!

[Hadde]

I noticed while looking at the CRL for 16-17 Lancer standards again that I messed up on my knee armor and painted the rivets white. I have corrected this and apologize for the mix up.

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

[Griffin-X]

Great update and thanks for taking care of that detail. Stand by while the approval team reviews your application.

[Griffin-X]

Thanks for your time and patience while the team reviewed your application. Below are a few additional items that need to be adjusted. You've done a great job with your setup!

 

1. Belt: The back webbing should be 2" nylon webbing.

2. Shoulder Bells: The distance from the shoulder bridge is still to far.

3. Suggestion: The shoulder bell shape/size is a bit off. Suggest swapping them out.

[Hadde]

Thank you! I am correcting the shoulder bells as we speak! I will post Pictures asap.

 

Thank you again!

[Hadde]

Hello all!

 

I corrected the shoulder bells and replaced the material on the back of the belt with nylon webbing. I had to wait for a break in the rain to get a good picture, Thank you all and let me know if you need me to do anything else

 

 

 

 

 

Pathfinders lead the way!

[Griffin-X]

Thanks Derek, the team is reviewing the updates now. Stand by...

[Hadde]

Thank you sir! On a side note I will be replacing the shoulder bells with studio creations bells once I have the funds to do so. Thank you all

[Griffin-X]

Thank you sir! On a side note I will be replacing the shoulder bells with studio creations bells once I have the funds to do so. Thank you all

 

Thanks Derek. Please let us know when you have the new bells in place.

[Hadde]

bells are ordered. Ill let you know as soon as I have them. Thank you all.

[Strider]

Hi Derek,

 

thanks for bearing with us. Following a thorough review of your updated pics this is the current shopping list. It may look long but I think besides the shoulder bells exchange the majority of points are rather quick fixes. The pouches may look too large when they are adjusted to the right position but let's see.

 

- Shoulder bells need to be replaced by some larger ones with appropriate screen appearance

- The pouches are spaced too narrow. They should start one inch from the last stitched chamber of the CB.

- The mud flap is about 2 inches too long and needs to be shortened

- The rivets on the knees should be on the side and not on the guard. This is just an observation (no change required)

- The belt above and below the boxes needs to be trimmed (not the drop boxes but the belt boxes)

- Bicep armor needs to be rotated to the respective sides (like they were sitting in your initial pictures)

- Belt boxes should be be adjusted, also adjust the plastic clips so they are aligned

- Canvas straps on shoulders should be aligned

- Cummerbund closure should be completely covered (no velcro visible)

 

Cheers

[Hadde]

How much trimming does the belt need?

 

The bells are on order as mentioned above.

 

The pouches are directly from bsn template. 2x7x6.

[Strider]

Hey bro,

 

just to clarify on some general points before I answer the specific questions. First off, since our Lancer specs have been extended by the end of last year, the bar has in effect been raised. Moreover, the Lancer review team has changed and different people may have different focus points. I really hope our feedback has not been discouraging - in the end we're only here to help you become the best scout you can be (at least costume-wise ;-)

 

Regarding your specific question:

 

Reference pic for mud flap lenght:

 

 

Reference pic for belt trimming (basically directly above and below the boxes):

 

 

The picture above is also a good guideline for the fit of the pouches. The BSN template you're refering to is unfortunately outdated and incorrect. But even this one always needs to be adjusted to the individual.

 

In the "Lancer Build Tutorial" I've provided a template with screen accurate measures (taken from Gino's scout on the SWCO) which may be a good starting point if you are around the height of the original scouts (about 6 feet I believe):

 

>>> http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=17305&view=findpost&p=155978

 

Hope that helps and please let us know if you have any other questions!

 

 

 

@Mattcamaro: I leave it up to our XO to make that announcement.

[Hadde]

Thanks strider.

 

So i need to remove the padding from the pouches as well right?

 

also, I have scoured the CRL for this but there is nothing there? black elastic on the tank topper? this was a recently approved lancer.

 

 

just so I have official confirmation, are all lancer builds to go off of the 2016/17 lancer CRL or the "screen accurate" gino's build?

 

I think everyone would benefit from an official answer so we would know if we are to follow the LANCER CRL to build these to approvable costumes or throw out the CRL and go off a build thread? if we are going off of ginos build all of the CRL's should be updated so people dont get stuck with old information.

[Strider]

Thanks strider.

 

So i need to remove the padding from the pouches as well right?

 

also, I have scoured the CRL for this but there is nothing there? black elastic on the tank topper? this was a recently approved lancer.

 

 

just so I have official confirmation, are all lancer builds to go off of the 2016/17 lancer CRL or the "screen accurate" gino's build?

 

I think everyone would benefit from an official answer so we would know if we are to follow the LANCER CRL to build these to approvable costumes or throw out the CRL and go off a build thread? if we are going off of ginos build all of the CRL's should be updated so people dont get stuck with old information.

 

Nope, pouch padding looks good to me.

 

Okay, for clarification: The Lancer requirements are of course the current Lancer CRL as shown on the 501st page. Having said that, the last couple of months have seen quite a bit of new findings re the scout costume (some of them confirmed or speeded up by Gino's scout display) and the CS felt it would be unfair not to acknowledge those if people want to incorporate them in their builds already. So until the current Lancer specs will eventually be updated things like the tank strap or the 2 inch stracp for the upper arm armor (amongst others) will also be accepted for Lancer.

[Hadde]

Alright I will work on the issues and post back once I have the bells In place.

 

Thanks all!

[Strider]

Well, yeah I understand but you're throwing a couple of things together. Let me try to entangle:

 

If Lancer CRL say the belt webbing is cotton (although we know it was nylon) it will be accepted. We currently have a couple of things on our list that require changing. But since we don't want to confuse people by constantly changing the CRLs the changes will only be updated periodically. Furthermore, before any change is implemented there are thorough discussions about whether to make it required, optional or dismiss it at all.

 

While the Lancer approval process lasts it's always possible that further things are pointed out by other members of the Lancer review team so this is nothing unusal.

[Hadde]

Well, yeah I understand but you're throwing a couple of things together. Let me try to entangle:

 

If Lancer CRL say the belt webbing is cotton (although we know it was nylon) it will be accepted. We currently have a couple of things on our list that require changing. But since we don't want to confuse people by constantly changing the CRLs the changes will only be updated periodically. Furthermore, before any change is implemented there are thorough discussions about whether to make it required, optional or dismiss it at all.

 

While the Lancer approval process lasts it's always possible that further things are pointed out by other members of the Lancer review team so this is nothing unusal.

 

Understood! I appreciate the feedback and the clarification strider as well as the references you sent. All is good man!

 

I'm working on the mudflap and the belt now so I'll get those fixed and make sure all is lined up for the pictures. I'm looking at about another 2 weeks until the new bells come in but they are gonna look alot better than the ones I had which I agree were too small.

 

Again thank you for the clarification and helping me to understand how it all works. I appreciate it!

[Strider]

Great, that's the spirit:) Looking forward to your upgrades, bro!