Greedo Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Hi fellow Tree-Dodgers! I'm about to finish my build and am starting to research weathering. I'm striving to get Lancer and to be as prop-accurate as possible. I am, like many before me, very nervous about unleashing spray-paint on my beautiful armour, and since my only previous build was an ESB TK, I've only got experience with the old wet newspaper. Any tricks to get close to the original? I don't have access to airbrush equipment, so is there a way to get there without it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Spray paint & extra fine steel wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyeslave Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Weathering my scout was a tricky thing. The screen accurate weathering isn't very realistic to the environment they were in. It basically looked like it was a rush job with a spray can. I don't think it looks great, so i went for a light balance between the two. Probably something i will tinker with some more. While you can go the screen accurate route, it a more permanent job without room for error. Personally i used acrylic paints which i used on my clone and sandtrooper. If you screw up you can clean up and start again. I would personally avoid any sort of sandpaper as again, it more permanent and tricky to roll back from. I tend to use sponging and try and get heavier in the areas it would naturally go. But with the scout i was trying to get it similar to the screen used look without it looking like a spray can, if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shada Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I used spray paint, imaging I was painting something about 15cm in front of the armour and not worrying about overspray. The trick is to go light - it's a subtle effect cf a Sandtrooper. I also used the paint and wipe off technique on my boots as they'd normally be dirtier. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Mist it with black spray paint, that's what they did in the movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Thanks, everyone. Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm asking around to maybe borrow an airbrush but I'm at the same time experimenting with rattlecans. So what's the consensus? On some of the better pics of the original it appears black and a dark, earthy brown were used. And, again, what about those scratches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubonos Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I went with natural weathering. I just troop hard. I run around with kids, hug or even climb trees, then will rub my scuffed up armor in dirt at home in the yard. No paint went into my weathering and I look like I was in a forest battle now. I personally think painting weathering looks fake, so I wanted it to look like real dirt and damage. What better way to do that than to use real dirt? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J120A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 When you weather something for screen use, it looks fundamentally different than if something was "naturally weathered". That being said, I think the weathering used for the screen scouts is fantastic. They layered airbrush with rattlecan, as well as what looks like flicks of acrylic paint here or there. If you want your Scout to look like it walked straight off of a screen then that's the only way to go imo! If you have access to an airbrush, look into buying this... https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-SNR-403-Stynylrez-Polyurethane/dp/B00K3KGSO4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1491946977&sr=8-4&keywords=stynylrez It's what I used for 90% of my weathering. If you don't have an airbrush and want to try it out, get this one...very cheap and perfect for this type of job! Not technically an "airbrush", but a "spray gun" https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Company-Basic-Spray/dp/B0006MZPLG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1491947032&sr=8-10&keywords=badger+airbrush Spray it on from several feet away slowly building up "patterns" of weathering, and then scratch and rub it away with your fingernails and fingertips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemdog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I don't have personal experience with it myself for weathering armour, but some art supply stores sell 'natural sponge' or faux natural sea sponge, which used with acrylic (and building up in layers) might make weathering effects look more natural just due to the irregularity and variety of the sponge textures? May also work to scrub away some already applied weathering. Could be an experimental option, if it hasn't been tried before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 When you weather something for screen use, it looks fundamentally different than if something was "naturally weathered". That being said, I think the weathering used for the screen scouts is fantastic. They layered airbrush with rattlecan, as well as what looks like flicks of acrylic paint here or there. If you want your Scout to look like it walked straight off of a screen then that's the only way to go imo! If you have access to an airbrush, look into buying this... https://www.amazon.c...words=stynylrez It's what I used for 90% of my weathering. If you don't have an airbrush and want to try it out, get this one...very cheap and perfect for this type of job! Not technically an "airbrush", but a "spray gun" https://www.amazon.c...badger+airbrush Spray it on from several feet away slowly building up "patterns" of weathering, and then scratch and rub it away with your fingernails and fingertips. I was hoping for your input, haha. Yeah, after experimenting with rattlecans this morning, I've decided to buy the products you recommended. I need to get this right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theneedleslinger138 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 New guy on the scene here. Thanks for all the tips on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 New guy on the scene here. Thanks for all the tips on this thread When you get a chance tag up with the Ridge Riders ART there in ABQ. That's where I started before I moved to AZ. They got some great folks there. Look them up on FB or via the Dewback Ridge forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theneedleslinger138 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 thanks! i hit them up on facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Welp, here it goes. Done airbrushed! My logic weathering was that there'd be a lot of scratching on top of the initial dirt/blast marks because of stuff hitting the armor when they're zipping by at ludicrous speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyeslave Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunPug Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Welp, here it goes. Done airbrushed! My logic weathering was that there'd be a lot of scratching on top of the initial dirt/blast marks because of stuff hitting the armor when they're zipping by at ludicrous speeds. Dude. Nailed it! Now that's what I like to see! So...howd you end up doing it? Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Dude. Nailed it! Now that's what I like to see! So...howd you end up doing it? Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Thanks, Shaun! Friend of mine lent me his airbrush gun and I bought a bottle of Vallejo primer. That's all I used to be honest! Now, during my whole build process I took great care to not take care of my armour, meaning that there'd be a bunch of (real) scratches to begin with. Experimenting with the primer I found that the old true and tested method of spray and wipe gave me a good base-dirtyness. Natural scratches darken and give texture. So then I took to more aggressive methods - sprayed larger areas, let them dry a little and then whipped the parts with a chain saw chain! Seriously, you can get the most random looking, scratches by rubbing, dragging, or whipping a chain on armour, or any to-be-weathered object. Then I attacked it with my nails covered with an old t-shirt. Tada! Then I lightly did the soft bits, might need to do a little more, but I'm happy the way it is. And yeah, what you see on camera vs. what you see with your own eyes is totally different! Happy how it turned out; if I wasn't, it'd be easy to rub off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvivahatex Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Looks great! How did you get that effect on the tank weathering? Did you just use some steel wool after painting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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