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Several Questions concerning the "soft" armor.


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I have been in the 501st for several years. My first set of armor I bought second hand, and it was enough to get me in for the standards at the time. Now I want to upgrade all of my soft armor so I am starting from scratch. The Flak vest I am going to have done at

Max's Sci-Fi creation shop (through facebook)

 

The rest I am going to do at home. First I will tell you the supplies I have picked up so far. Please let me know if I am missing anything.

 

1. Black pig skin suede split. ( butt flap and riding patches)

2 2.5 yards white duck cloth (cummerbund and crotch piece)

3. Nylon Batting for cummerbund

4. 2" wide elastic (black)

5 2" wide white velcro

6. Red Kap coveralls

 

So like I said my first set was second hand so I am not really sure how everything should fit.

 

Also keep in mind. As much as I would LOVE to go for Lancer status. The actual armor part will not pass muster. Like I said I got it all second hand and I think the person who was working on it before me, did a few things to it that cant be changed. (without damaging the armor)

 

 

Now on to the questions.

1. Should the cummerbund sit just under the bottom edge of the chest armor? If so how far down does it go to? My waist (where you would normally wear a belt?) or down to my hips.

 

2. The cod piece. It looks like it's is sewn to the vest. (Just at the base) is this something that can be connected by velcro or snaps? (For washing purposes).

 

3. Can velcro or snaps be used on the suit and on the backside of the bund to secure it in place?

 

4. I have read some people connect the cummerbund to the vest. But it looks like you know longer do that. Due to the fact that the cod connects to the vest.. Is there any over lap of the vest and the cummerbund?

 

4a. The cummerbund. When sewn together can it be folder over for the fold to be an edge or should it be actually two separate pieces. Then sewn along all 4 edges?

4b. Is the length of the cummerbund different from top to botom? I though it was pretty much just a tube you put on..

 

5.The suede flap. It looks like it is only sewn on one side . (The part that connects it to the suit.) Again, can it be attached with velcro (Cant use snaps on this one, it will show)?

 

6. are the the edges folder over for the flap? (for a clean edge). Or is the natural edge exposed.

 

7. The riding patches, are they one big patch for the thighs? Or two individual patches connected together at the top? Also do they just cover the front half and rear half of the thigh.

 

This is all I can think of now.. I hope all of my questions make since. ( I am typing this up using my phone) .

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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1. Just under the bottom edge of the armor and should end right at the belt. When the belt is worn on your WAIST (aka, across your belly button, not down at your hips like pants are worn today)

 

2. Max's Sci Fi attaches the codpiece to the vest. Did you ask them not to? I have theirs and I wash them together all the time.

 

3. Absolutely. As long as it doesn't show you can attach and affix anyway you see fit

 

4. The cummerbund goes over everything. It's basically a garment about 9-10 inches high that holds the pouches.

 

4a. I think it's fine to fold it.

 

5. Since the part that attaches is not seen, you can attach it with velcro is you want to remove for washing. Mine is sewn to my suit and I wash it all the time. This stuff is supposed to look beat up :)

 

6. I think most of us just use the natural edge of the pigskin

 

7. The movie scouts used 4 patches, 2 for each leg. A lot of people just use 2, but no one has really nailed down a great pattern for it.

 

Hopefully this photo is a good guide for all your questions:

 

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1. Just under the bottom edge of the armor and should end right at the belt. When the belt is worn on your WAIST (aka, across your belly button, not down at your hips like pants are worn today)

 

2. Max's Sci Fi attaches the codpiece to the vest. Did you ask them not to? I have theirs and I wash them together all the time.

 

3. Absolutely. As long as it doesn't show you can attach and affix anyway you see fit

 

4. The cummerbund goes over everything. It's basically a garment about 9-10 inches high that holds the pouches.

 

4a. I think it's fine to fold it.

 

5. Since the part that attaches is not seen, you can attach it with velcro is you want to remove for washing. Mine is sewn to my suit and I wash it all the time. This stuff is supposed to look beat up :)

 

6. I think most of us just use the natural edge of the pigskin

 

7. The movie scouts used 4 patches, 2 for each leg. A lot of people just use 2, but no one has really nailed down a great pattern for it.

 

Hopefully this photo is a good guide for all your questions:

 

2014-10-28221117_zpsd980b1fa.jpg

Thanks for answering my questions. I know it's a lot. I have been scouring all of our boards and just getting all the info I can. I want this to look great for SDCC. Like I said I may not be able to go Lancer (YET!). But it WILL look better than what I have now...

Max's, they are doing my vest only. I am doing everything else here.. The cummerbund is just straight sewing that my mother in law can help me with. The patches for the suit, Max did say they can do that. But I am on a budget. I would rather spend that particular bit of money on the vest it's self. (Less room for error if it's somebody who makes them all the time. ) My mother in law can do clothes but nothing like this before. The bund and suede flap I don't think will be to much of a problem. The riding patches..... I will burn that bridge when I get to it... But until I get my actual vest. I think I am in a holding pattern. I can work on the suit.. (taking off the pockets and such). As long as I am done before SDCC this year I will be happy..

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My mother in law can do clothes but nothing like this before.

 

The vest is just a raglan half-shirt, with two layer and padded/ribbed sleeves. I made mine and I never sewed at all until I started my scout.

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Just got my sewing machine in and I'm going to tackle a new bund. Kevin is right you can do it. There is lots of help here for you.

 

 

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So I have started the soft parts. (mother in law is helping with the sewing part) When I cut the riding patches they actually do not look that large... is this typical?

 

Can you post some pictures so we can see what you have? Here's a picture of my flight suit with the patches.

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