Deadeye Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I think I'm pretty close to getting all the stuff I need to buy. I still need fabric for the soft parts, which I've tentatively decided to make myself. My SC parts all arrived late last week. The Red Kap suit, boots and vinyl arrived a bit before that. The Hyperfirm pistol arrived somewhere in between and the balaclava seems to be coming from somewhere in the Yukon territory because it's taking forever to get here from Canada. I'm neck deep in making some MUCH needed revisions to my TK to allow me to troop in it a bit longer until I can finish up this build. Once I have those done, I'll be diving into this. Can't wait! I'm sure I'll have questions so I figured I'd start the build thread now. I have a set of grey foam helmet pads that I'm contemplating using with this build but has anyone tried the 3M headband in an SC helmet yet? I'm not sure if it'll work and don't want to waste $30 to find out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoutScout Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Looks good! I did all of the soft parts myself as well, it wasn't too bad and I had zero experience sewing. Good luck with the build! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasz Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Rock n roll, Kurt! I'll be down at Legoland Saturday in my Scout if you're around (I see you're trooping it Sunday). I know there are a few folks who use the hard hat liner, but I'm not sure in what helmet. Someone will chime in Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayelbe Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I did my soft parts myself, as well. I hot glued a standard hard hat liner in my Altman bucket after trying (and failing) getting pads to work right. I just couldn't get a good fit without pads at my ears, which made it impossible to hear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I had a hard hat liner in my RS Props helmet for awhile. It kept giving me a headache and I ended up removing it and putting helmet pads in instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Nick and Kevin, I'm looking forward to sewing the soft parts myself. I haven't sewn much since junior high home ec class but that went alright so what could go wrong? I'm sure there'll be a fair bit of trial and error (lots of error) but I know I can pull it off with the tutorials and stuff that I've seen. John, I saw that you're trooping Saturday. Wish I could get out there and see you all but I think I'm tied up most of the day with a travel baseball fundraiser for my son. Sounds like I'm missing most of the fun as the Saturday group is much bigger than Sunday. Have fun. Kevin and Mickey, thanks for the feedback on the helmet liner. I have a standard hard hat liner in my TK bucket and I'd say results are mixed. I think it will be more positive once I open up the bottom opening to allow more room to put it on and twist onto my head. The biker bucket doesn't have that issue so I may go that route again. I already have the pads, though, so that would be easy. And the 3M headband (like the one KW sells here) just looks easy to mount, assuming everything lines up right. If not, I'm not sure it would be a viable option. Hopefully there's someone out there that's tried this with the SC bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk1234 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I just put a 3M liner in my SC. You can't secure the liner to the inside of the helmet using the plastic bolts. The holes in the liner don't match up to the holes in the visor/bucket. I used the 3M bolts to attach the visor. No issues there. I then riveted the liner to the bucket. The rivets are underneath the visor pivot. You can't see them. I like this approach. The helmet sits squarely on my noggin'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shada Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I have an Altman helmet and just used a hard hat liner. Because I wasn't sure about the fit, I actually stuck adhesive velcro to the inside of the Scout helmet and the outside of the original hard hat bits then stuck it on - has worked fine for me in 12 troops over the last 6 months. Also did the soft parts myself, using sewing experience from school about 30 years ago and it doesn't look bad. Just make sure you do some test fits with paper patterns before using the actual material. Even the boots were much less daunting than I expected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 I just put a 3M liner in my SC. You can't secure the liner to the inside of the helmet using the plastic bolts. The holes in the liner don't match up to the holes in the visor/bucket. I used the 3M bolts to attach the visor. No issues there. I then riveted the liner to the bucket. The rivets are underneath the visor pivot. You can't see them. I like this approach. The helmet sits squarely on my noggin'. Thanks, Randy. This is exactly the experience that I was hoping someone had and I'm a bit bummed to find out that it won't work. It just seemed too simple to put the plastic bolts through the visor/bucket holes into the headband and be done with it. Now, I'll need to devise plan B which at the moment looks like the helmet pad kit. I may decide to take on the hard hat liner if the pads don't fit well but since I already have the pads and nowhere to use them I think it only makes sense. Thanks. Brian, thanks for the suggestion on the paper patterns. I think that makes sense and will hopefully allow me to only commit to fabric once I know everything works/fits. Is it reasonable to assume that "everyone" takes in the legs on their Red Kap coveralls? Mine are very roomy and I know I've seen at least one build thread where that was done. I was figuring I would just narrow down the legs to be similar to a pair of comfy jeans. There also may be a bit too much room for "junk in the trunk" so I may also need to fix that. Also, does anyone else sew up the openings that allow you to reach through into your pants pockets? I figured it would make sense to close those up so people can't see inside if they happen to open when I bend over or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasz Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I took in the legs and arms on my RedKap. I stitched closed the slits to get to the pants pockets, but left the actual pockets open. The belt hides them quite well. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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