TB-7076 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 You can imagine how difficult it has been to find the right forum section to post in so I threw a coin Whenever I look at the screens and renders of the Barc I wonder what would be more epractical and the intention by the designer. The first question is easy to answer - a soft peace would be more comfortable to wear and actually it makes more sense. But the camo and material seem to be the same as the armor (Though it's difficult to distinguish the materials as the artists didn't really care too much indicating material differences). What is your oinion on this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghfett Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I say, like the other clones cod armor and because of the camo paint scheme, it's a hard piece of armor myself. I actually started a thread on this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVe Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I agree with pghfett. From what I have seen, the cod piece appears to be a hard armor piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 As I aid the material and camo are evidence for the fact it could be armor but somehow it really bugs me to have a hard piece there....and....I can't think of a comfortable and logical way to attach it properly. What if this thing is meant as some kind of material between fabric/leather and armor? Similar as we are going to do rubber armor for the boot covers this might be the right direction for the groin flap as well - don't you think? not that you think I just discovered a new fetish just because I venture into rubber products so much lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 From this pic it looks like it's just a solid piece that is somehow attached so it doesn't move readily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Of course - the mesh of the 3D model is probably not very sophisticated so only the most important things are made movable while that one is probably more or less part of the main body. Plus it would look arkward if it would move. The problem with all the CG characters is you cannot judge them from a costume point of view but have to think in the CGI world and then translate these into the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Yeah, having a flappy cod piece would be kinda silly. Maybe if you sew some velcro to the undersuit, you could keep the codpiece in place without it being too uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Well I think some sort of attachment we need there yes. I wouldn't even mind using a similar technique as the scout even if it violates the screen accuracy. A strap with a hook/loop system not to dangerous for the crown jewels might work as well. But whatever technique we use it has to be done as it would look really stupid making certain moves and having this thing always move like crazy... That is one of the reasons I'd prefer a padded leather part. I think it could be coloured similar to the armor. At least I will try it as an option once I get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghfett Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hey fellas, I spoke with Jason (SGB) the other day about this and he was brainstorming the idea of having a snap incorporated into the jumpsuits to accomodate the cod piece or even som other system as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghst915 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hey fellas, I spoke with Jason (SGB) the other day about this and he was brainstorming the idea of having a snap incorporated into the jumpsuits to accomodate the cod piece or even som other system as well. What if the cod piece was made from a heavy canvas material and then use a liquid starch on it to hold its shape. Then do a snap or velcro on the back to hold it place???? When you look at the small boxes and the cod area it looks like it has a heavy canvas look to it. Ladyghst says this would work, by making it, doing the camo and then the liquid starch to hold its shape. I made the picture this big to show the texture of the piece and boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Ross is right I see the texture too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghst915 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It could even have a short piece of elastic that just runs under the center of the croch area but is only like a 3 inchs long or so. It could be done with snaps or velcor on the end that attachs to the cod piece and sewen on to the suit or pants at the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVe Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Ross is right I see the texture too. Is that texture or is that just CGI dithering? The cod piece may have to be up to personal interpretation / artistic license. From a practicality point of view, if I was being shot at... I'd want the strongest material (within reason) down there to protect my boys. My interpretation is a hard armor-type cod piece, attached at the top to the lower belt (black and silver belt) and probably a hidden snap or Velcro on the bottom. No strap running through the legs. Just my 2¢ DaVe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I could see a soft part being used, but it'd have to be pretty thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Of course it's thicker and of another material. If we talk of protection you want your guts protected more than anything else.... Besides the scout had no har armor there as well. CGI dithering would look different - the wobbly lines there are a sort of texture or bumpmap. Of course a final word on this would be left to the creator of the barc. However this enough of a backup argument for me to go the softer way And it's no that because one guy does different the others have to follow. This is a diffcult case and I understand when people prefer hard armor....well ... I don't understand it but I respect it hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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