ozarkscout Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Can someone please confirm the correct rivet color for the knee armor? The CRL on 501st.com says it is silver, but the Lancer standards on BSN say it is white. Which one should I go by? Recommend someone make the correction on whichever one is wrong, to avoid confusion... thanks!! -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexous Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I believe the 2015 Update on the boards should be more accurate than the one on the 501st CRL Website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AShadyPanda Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 White! Shoot for Lancer! The only silver rivet is the bottom one on the tank I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I think that's one of the items that Chex mentioned the command staff was going to address this year. Anyway, I've been told to use the requirements here on BS.N by the Lancers and not the 501st version. It takes longer to get that one updated as it has to go through the Legion offices and not the detachment. The outboard rivet should be painted white. I used Testor's white. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 White. You can paint the silver rivets if you need to. That's what I did. ALL OTHER RIVETS SHOULD BE SILVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AShadyPanda Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 White. You can paint the silver rivets if you need to. That's what I did. ALL OTHER RIVETS SHOULD BE SILVER. When in doubt you can always count on Mickey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzJaeger Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 White. You can paint the silver rivets if you need to. That's what I did. ALL OTHER RIVETS SHOULD BE SILVER. Are not the belt rivets also supposed to be white though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Silver http://www.bikerscou...y_1_4_39316.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexous Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Seems like the CRL on the Official 501st site might need a look-over... a bit of confusion amongst the Pathfinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 You see.... this is the first Test for being a Pathfinder. Working out which bits on the CRL on the 501st site are incorrect. Well done. You've passed the first test on your way to becoming a Scout! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzJaeger Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It IS, quite honestly, very frustrating, because most people will turn to the CRL and it is wrong... So the correct answer is White knees, silver belt, silver holster. Because working toward a Lancer build is hard when there are conflicting answers! Lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Just remember, when in doubt, follow the three rules: 1) Watch the movie 2) Watch the movie 3) Watch the movie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklegg Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Are not the belt rivets also supposed to be white though? Yeah, I was also misled by this. The CRL here (Pathfinders) for Lancer says "single white rivet". Guess I will be drilling that out tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just paint it silver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Seems like the CRL on the Official 501st site might need a look-over... a bit of confusion amongst the Pathfinders I'll bet all the Detachments are having that problem Daniel. SpecOps, White Armor, and Blizzard all direct their members to the CRL's on their forums. I would almost think it would be better for the main 501st site to caveat the CRLs there with something like "This CRL is for reference only. Most current CRLs are maintained at the Detachment level and found via their forums". I agree about the confusion and I was confused as well until the folks here directed me to use the CRL located here. Not sure why it's so hard to get the 501st CRL updated to current standards. Maybe a question for the Det head shed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklegg Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The CRL for Lancer on this detatchment says white rivet for the belt. So this scenario isn't with the 501st CRL. The 501st CRL does not specify a color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The CRL for Lancer on this detatchment says white rivet for the belt. So this scenario isn't with the 501st CRL. The 501st CRL does not specify a color. Jeff is right. the Lancer spec (http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=12081) defines a WHITE rivet under item #8 "With a 50mm (2") white cotton or nylon belt secured each end of the hard belt with a single white rivit." We as a detachment really need to get these discrepancies cleared up and bring both the 501st page and the det pages current for CB and TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzJaeger Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Half of the Lancer applications you cant even see what color belt rivet they have, some look silver others look white, and then Mickey said this here: Silver http://www.bikerscou...y_1_4_39316.jpg So I believe the Knees are white and everything else is Silver. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Half of the Lancer applications you cant even see what color belt rivet they have, some look silver others look white, and then Mickey said this here: So I believe the Knees are white and everything else is Silver. =) I agree with you Blitz but the Lancer spec indicates a white rivet for the belt. I know Mickey is on point and it's silver but the spec calls for a white one. It's time for the Command Staff to take up the CRL(s) issue and get these items corrected. I'm not saying they're not busy but this really needs to be added to the 2016 agenda and get fixed. Folks working towards a basic or a Lancer approval shouldn't have to redo work because the CRL(s) either here or on the 501st main aren't accurate that's not fair to them. We need to lead the way on this and get our CRLs up to date and fix this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This has been done, and that singular correction has been made. The CRL's over on the main 501st site have not been editable by ourselves here, although I think this is soon to change. The discrepancies have been noted to the 501st Admins a long time ago, but I can only assume that they are so swamped under that they have not gotten to them on the list. Thus far we have had no control over that. I think the LMO team (over on the 501st main section) is implementing a new era of change in which the DL's will have a much larger control over the CRL's themselves. Brushing up on the CRL's both standard and Lancer is already on our list of things to do in 2016. No doubt the Lancer spec will get some edits/additions this year, as these are currently being discussed but they will be announced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklegg Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Thanks for the clarifications and edits. Rivets have been painted silver (way easier than drilling them out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrofire Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This has been done, and that singular correction has been made. The CRL's over on the main 501st site have not been editable by ourselves here, although I think this is soon to change. The discrepancies have been noted to the 501st Admins a long time ago, but I can only assume that they are so swamped under that they have not gotten to them on the list. Thus far we have had no control over that. I think the LMO team (over on the 501st main section) is implementing a new era of change in which the DL's will have a much larger control over the CRL's themselves. Brushing up on the CRL's both standard and Lancer is already on our list of things to do in 2016. No doubt the Lancer spec will get some edits/additions this year, as these are currently being discussed but they will be announced. Thanks for update Chef I appreciate it. That's going to really help this Detachment and it's good to hear that it's going to be addressed this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzJaeger Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Just keep your silver and white paint handy fellas! So just to reiterate where we ended up, White knees and all else silver, if you found yourself doubting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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