Cummerbund questions

[Bally]

It's come time to visit our seamstress and get a cummerbund made so I really need to clear up some questions I have after looking at a lot of cummerbunds.

 

Colour

Personally looking at all of the screenshots and the old discussion about the cummerbund that led to the finalisation of the CRL, IMO the screenshots show a khaki/olive drab cummerbund. As someone who has worn a camouflage uniform for a lot of years, it doesn't make sense to me to have cam armour and a grey cummerbund.

 

The CRL also says no MOLLE vests. I can understand not allowing pre-fab vests however again, to me the screenshots look like a vertical form of MOLLE that might take pouches with horizontal tabs for attachment. Just the way I see it.

 

Anyhow I assume it's way too late to reopen this discussion and anything not grey wouldn't be acceptable. Is this correct?

 

Pattern

Obviously there have been a number of interpretations on the vertical stripe layout. Again, to me the screenshots show a uniform spacing between the rear/main material and the "tape" that is stitched vertically. Is this an acceptable way to do it or does it have to be the variable spacing and tape width as others have done?

 

Base colour vs overlay

Assuming grey must be used, is it best to go for a light grey rear/base material and dark grey stripes over the top, or vice versa?

 

Thanks for your time

[Bally]

Any opinions? I need to have a solid plan this week sorry.

[Grumpy]

Screen shots were the real killer in the past discussion.

There is so much shadow play with the light and colors. Plus, dealing with a CGI character doesn't help too much.

There was a discussion in the past on style and colors. Through a lengthy discussion between members, past armourers, and current armourers, we decided upon a grey cummerbund, with vertical grey striping.

Weathering will help darken the material. (Because there was never a "clean" Kashyyyk Trooper shown in the very limited screen time.)

 

Molle vests have the zipper right in the front. My very first attempt at the Kashyyyk Trooper had a Molle vest. While it was easy to put on, it was not the right style. Hell, I had no idea what I was doing back then. (2009) There were only about 5 Kashyyyk Troopers at that time.

Patience and digging into old build threads and asking those that were already approved how they made theirs really helped.

Looking at screen shots and still pre-production photos, there is a specific style with measurements on where the vertical strips will be placed. It's a wee bit odd, but after the front spacing, I spaced the rest out evenly around to the back.

 

Here was my first attempt at a cummerbund. (I will not show a picture of the Molle vest that I had...it's just awful...).

Plus, I had hard pouches. Old WW II German mag pouches. That ended up to be wrong, too. The pouches were agreed upon to be soft.

(Yeah, yeah, much discussion and blabbering...never again...)

I used white sheet material and dyed it grey. (I had no idea that there was actual grey material out there...sheesh!)

Reversed colors for the new cummerbund. Plus, I had no idea how to space the straps back then. I was a true Rookiee...

(Good Lord...kill it with fire!!)

 

 

This is my current cummerbund. It has one grey vertical strip right in the middle, and then the rest are spaced at different intervals, and then evenly.

 

Not everyone will have the exact same spacing on their cummerbunds.

We've always gone by "As close to screen accurate as possible."

Since there was never any real tangible materials to go by, we had to rely on our own interpretations and designs, based on a CGI character. (Pain in the arse at times...seriously...)

Some Kashyyyk Troopers have also made their cummerbunds with a darker base material and lighter grey vertical straps. That is also acceptable.

It also comes down to what material you might have available. Not everyone's will look the same. Similar, yet different. (Clones, but each with separate individual identities.)

 

I might not get on here all that much anymore, but I will help you with any questions as you go along.

Post pictures as you progress.

Hopefully other KT's will drop in and offer their opinions, as well.

Cheers!

[Bally]

Thanks very much for that mate, I appreciate your time. I've gone with the lighter base and dark tape strips, smaller gaps between the centre 3 and then a bit wider for the rest.

 

Even though I've looked at all the cummerbunds including yours a heap of times (and have them all printed out) I've only just now, looking it again, noticed that insignia on your far right-hand (left as you look at it) pouch. Although from memory you may have mentioned it previously.

[Grumpy]

Yeah, I added that one (Republic Cog) to use at Cons and for fun. I have a regular one for "proper" events. (I honestly forgot it was in the picture.) My two long pouches, for the back, say "Grumpy" and CB-4312 in Aurebesh.

It's not visible, but it I were to flip one of the drop pouches, there is a camo version of the Mando Mythosaur skull. Just having a bit of fun with it.

 

Best of luck with your build.