Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 When I start riveting, do I want to drill holes as large as the rivets I am using? Or is the rule of thumb the same as drilling with wood, drill smaller than the rivets I am using? I am afraid to crack the ABS if I use a drill size smaller than the rivets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 You usually go a tiny bit larger and use a backing washer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Only talking maybe Half a mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 kk sadly the fabric store I went to did not have 1/18 rivets, only 5/32 rivets. is that going to be an issue going a half mil larger when the rivet is already bigger than suggested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 i have not drilled anything yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I always go the same size as the rivet, and use a backing washer. The expanding part should not get to the plastic itself as it should be halted by the washer. 5/32... that's 4mm yeah?? That's what I use as standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Will any washers do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 You'll need to get washers that will fit the rivet. So if you're going with 5/32" rivets, get the same sized washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Does this look right? I put the rivet and the rivet with the washer through it side by side for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01Hawk Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Are they clothing rivets you have pictured? For the rivets in the belt /holster you prob want to use these type ( I have never used or looked at clothing rivets tho) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have clothing rivets, it's the washers I am worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forrest Patrol Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I don't think they are the correct rivets. I think you need these, like 01Hawk said http://www.multifix.co.za/blind-rivets.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 hmm...the back of the packaging said they work with all fabrics and leathers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forrest Patrol Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yes they will but they aren't what you are supposed to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's a dritz eyelet kit, 5/32 says it works with medium to heavy fabrics, so I assume it means webbing and leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 hmm...well darn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 I guess I'm not following what the difference is...I hate the idea that my biker scout uniform will be ground to a halt because I got the wrong rivets... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01Hawk Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I've never used clothing rivets so I don't know what they look like installed. I googled images for them and they look like the end up capped ( not a hole left in the middle like a pop rivet). The correct rivets would be a pop rivet and you can get them ( and the washers) at a hardware store or Lowes/Home Depot in a kit with the rivet gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 well good news, I drilled the holes for the rivets, bad news, I have the wrong type of 5/32 rivets lol. Wish I knew. Looks like I am making a trip to the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.lowes.com/pd_445504-37672-513127___?storeNumber=1108&Ntt=pop+rivets+5%2F32&selectedLocalStoreBeanArray=%5Bcom.lowes.commerce.storelocator.beans.LocatorStoreBean%4074457445%5D&pl=1&productId=4193483 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Larkin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think actually what I am going to do, is go ahead as planned, and use what rivets I have, and just make a new belt later on, I actually messed up on the belt itself, it will be good enough for the premiere but I actually made a blatant error due to misreading directions. But this is helpful! For my first time making this, I think I have actually done a pretty solid job, but next time I'll be more 501st ready lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forrest Patrol Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You need rivets for the tank top + bottom, belt, knees and boot holster. There are different heads on rivets as well, I think I used domed head but I don't know if there is a correct one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01Hawk Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I would use aluminum rivets vs the steel ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What you have there are call 'double cap' rivets. They are used in leatherwork and for making 'studs' to hold fabrics together. Especially on the more 'specialised' kind of leatherwork. nudge nudge... What you need are 'pop rivets' or more correctly called 'blind rivets', as has been pictured by the chaps above. They also use a special tool for their installation, called a rivet gun. normally very cheap. It's just a hand tool for squeezing them up. They come in various different sizes, I suggest you get 5/32 considering that's the size holes you've already drilled, and you need to get the corresponding 5/32 washers to go over them. Basically the tool pulls the shank down through the rivet expanding it. When it gets to a certain level of pressure (generally when the expanded part hits something it can't get past, i.e the backing washer) it snaps the tang off. The expanded bit pulls the surfaces tight together and then it can't be removed as the expanded part is larger than the hole it needs to get out of. When they're installed, they look something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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