Jakeputt Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So I have a question about my backside flap placement. I was looking at this image http://www.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_scout_trooper-suitdetail for reference and I felt that I placed the flap in the correct location. I also sewed the inner seam suede into my suite, but you can't see them very well, is that problematic? How much of the leg are they supposed to take up. I used a template that I found here to create them, I have them sewn on they are just kind of hidden. I did also attach the leg elastics as well. Here is an image of the back flap and the leg elastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Here's a pic from a screen used costume. The riding patches come out pretty far on the front of your thigh. On the rear of the suit, they come out slightly less. Riding patches from a screen used suit: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I can't really see your patches at all. It's better to stand with your body facing forward. We're Scout Troopers...not WWE masked wrestling ninjas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Well, looks like I'm redoing that whole area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 How does the backside leather look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Where can I find more pics like the one you posted with the in seam patches. I would like to have more reference material so that I am not Guessing on what the different parts are supposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It looks about the same on the backside, except it doesn't go as high, and it isn't as wide as the front. It's visible on the back, but not as much as on the front. I've got more pictures at home on my computer (at work right now), but you can find the same pictures if you put "riding patch" in the search box and then sift through some of the topics. Pretty much everything you're looking for, or will need in the future, is on the BSN. Research is the key on building a quality scout. I can try to upload some tomorrow for you. I too originally tried to use the template that's on the BSN for my riding patches. They just weren't big enough to be accurate. It's a good starting point, but not the end all be all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The mud flap is ok height wise. It will be hidden by the cumberbund. It may be a lil too long, but can't tell until you have the bund on. The leg bands are too low. Spread the jumpsuit legs wide open. See that center seam, measure 2" each way from that seam & pin the top of the elastic there on each side. Tack down with a couple stiches to hold in place Then sew your riding patch over to secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telari Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 How does the backside leather look? it looks like it is positioned wrong. It should cover your backside (the width slightly shorter than your waist). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 I've heard people say the patch should be 1 piece and some say patch should be 2 which way is better for the build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I've heard people say the patch should be 1 piece and some say patch should be 2 which way is better for the build? I've seen it both ways, but one piece is "screen accurate". When in doubt, refer to the CRL. As for the riding patches, it helped me to visualize how Scouts were actually positioned when riding speeders: leaning way forward, almost laying on the top of the bike. Being a "riding patch", you'd want more of your front thigh covered as that's what's contacting your ride. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Whats the CRL? Where can I find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It's right here on the forums, and the Legion website. I really suggest to look around here a little harder Jake. There is a plethora of information within the BSN. I'm really not trying to be hard on you, but the section labled "Costume Standards" would have been one of my first reads if I wanted to build a Scout that met the standards of the Legion. http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showforum=35 http://www.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_Scout_trooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 See, I've been looking at those images and reading all those standards and they are very vague. It just says Must have a suede or faux suede butt flap attached above the waist hidden by the cummerbund, rectangle in shape. The flap is slightly narrower than the width of the trooper and stop slightly higher than the bottom edge of the troopers backside. Suede or faux suede thigh patches must be present, extending over the flight suit crotch and down the front finishing above the knee armor. The thigh patches must be secured by 50mm (2") black elastic, sewn in under the front and back of the thigh patch. I feel that my backside flap meets the criteria specified. But the riding patches don't say anything about size.Or what they should be shaped like. That also indicates finishing ABOVE the knee armor. In the image that was supplied it clearly goes under the knee armor. I think it looks a lot better that way too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobik96 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=13065&st=0&p=114821&hl=+riding%20+patch&fromsearch=1entry114821 Click here then scroll down for a template of the riding patch. I'm 5' 10". For me The top of the 2 inch Velcro should be 2 inches down from the crotch. The patch length should be 75% of the length between the crotch and the knee. The template is nice but far too narrow. I printed two and taped them together because the length is perfect. Here is a pic of the templates that I used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasz Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Agreed on the template being too narrow. I also think it's a bit misleading the way the CRL states "secured by 2" black elastic". The elastic doesn't "secure" anything. I sewed mine on the front and back, then sewed the riding patch exactly over the strap ends. It looks like they help attach the patches, but in fact do not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobik96 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Here's a pic from a screen used costume. The riding patches come out pretty far on the front of your thigh. On the rear of the suit, they come out slightly less. Riding patches from a screen used suit: This is a good pic but keep in mind that this is on a mannequin. Check out these 3 dudes. The one you can see the patch best on the third one over. You can see how high the strap is on the first one. Also note the height of the side boxes. You will pull your hair out later trying to adjust those 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 I don't have any hair to pull out as it is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeputt Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 I have found a local garrison seamstress who will be assisting me in creating my Cummerbund, Flak Vest and sewing the riding patch and back flap onto my flight suite. What are some things I want to keep in mind with each of those things if I am looking at Lancer Status? I am also curious to know if there is a problem with whether or not I adhere the cummerbund to the flak vest via velcro or if I could use suspenders too keep the bund up, and if Lancer prefers one above the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I have found a local garrison seamstress who will be assisting me in creating my Cummerbund, Flak Vest and sewing the riding patch and back flap onto my flight suite. What are some things I want to keep in mind with each of those things if I am looking at Lancer Status? I am also curious to know if there is a problem with whether or not I adhere the cummerbund to the flak vest via velcro or if I could use suspenders too keep the bund up, and if Lancer prefers one above the other. From what I remember, Lancer requires that the flak vest and 'bund are separate pieces, but I don't think there's any issue with them being connected via velcro. Ditto for the suspenders, just make sure they're not showing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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