BikerScoutDawn Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 http://www.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_Scout_trooper On the site that gives the 501st specifications I do not see anywhere that specifies the exact sizes for the pockets for the cumberbuns. Are there specific specifications that the sizes have to be? I had someone make mine and they are too big I need them smaller but she is saying if they are smaller they are not within specification can someone assist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScoutDawn Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I should add that to the way they are right now does not allow a space between the chest plate and the belt it overlaps the belt and is too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 As a rule of thumb for troopers over 5'9" I make 6x7x 1.75" pouches and for those under 5x6x1.75" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScoutDawn Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I'm 5'3 and there is only 9 inches between the bottom of the chest and top of the belt currently the poclets made for me overlap the belt and she says it has to be that way, i say I doubt thats approvable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 So the pouches are 9 inches high? That seems awfully big. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthShlomo Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 i'm 5'5" and my pouches are 7" tall if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At 9" I would suggest you have your belt placed far too low. The belt sits more on your navel line rather than down on your hips. I'm 6'1" and my gap is still only 7" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugdozer Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At 9" I would suggest you have your belt placed far too low. The belt sits more on your navel line rather than down on your hips. I'm 6'1" and my gap is still only 7" The height of the belt has to be determined by the bottom edge of the bund, which is itself determined by the length of the codpiece/strap that goes between the legs. Longer codpiece = higher belt and vice versa. So if you have a short codpiece/strap then your belt HAS to be lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Marcel has quoted the general size of the pouches. I'd like to mention that one way you can figure out how big they should be is by measuring the distance between the top of your belt and the bottom of your chest armour. The pouches should not exceed that length, ever. From there, make a cardboard template and cut varying rectangles to see what fits well, if you really need. Ideally, the belt should sit at the top of your hips. Best way to figure that out is by sitting down. If you're sitting on your belt, it's too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The height of the belt has to be determined by the bottom edge of the bund, which is itself determined by the length of the codpiece/strap that goes between the legs. Longer codpiece = higher belt and vice versa. So if you have a short codpiece/strap then your belt HAS to be lower. Well.... not technically Simon. The scale of the pouches for the correct look is the determining factor for all the other parts. Once you have the correct scale for the pouches, you can then work out where the bottom of the pouches sit. This then gives you the 'belt line'. Once you have the belt line, you can work out your cummerbund and then the crotch flap parts. If you make that flap too small, and have the torso of the bund too long (sitting more down on your hips), you'll end up with the belt too low and consequently very long and thin pouches, which won't look right and thus throw off the entire thing. The drop boxes sit more on your hips than the belt does. Essentially they are all intrinsically linked. If you look at this picture here, you'll notice that the belt sits approximately half way between the bottom of the chest plate and the bottom of your crotch, and that the pouches span the distance between the bottom of the chest and the top of the belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugdozer Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Fair enough. But whichever part you make first is the bit all the others have to fit around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScoutDawn Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 The biggest thing I needed to confirm, which you have is validation that the pouches should not overlap the belt. No matter how I adjusted my cumberbun or belt they were just too darn big. I've since taken them in to someone else and she's making them smaller. They were made by the lady suggestedon the sc page and its just one of many things I've had to have adjusted so I guess I'm not surprised these are wrong too. Its ok, a little adjusting and then I should be approved. It was the only thing they commented on in my reply email on my submitted photos. Now heres hoping after that I'm good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It is ok for the pouches to over Lap the belt a little, but should cover the belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorean Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Fair enough. But whichever part you make first is the bit all the others have to fit around! But, if you make the first part so it means all the other parts associated to it are in the wrong place; you should go back and adjust or make that first made part again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It is a bit of a balancing act. The essence of one, impacting on all the others. But looking at the pictures above, you can see that the chest armour, the bund and the cod sections are all roughly 1/3rd of the total distance between the nape of the neck and the bottom of the crotch (not including the belt). So for example.... I'm tall at 6'1". My nape to crotch is 27". The belt is 3" high, so that leaves 24", divide that by 3 and that's 8", so there will be 'roughly' an 8" gap between my chest plate and the belt line for the pouches to span. The scale for my pouches looks best at 7" high x 6" wide, so with a little bit of a drop from the bottom of the chest plate and nudging the belt up by about 1/2" I can cover the gap entirely. Here's how mine looks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerScout007 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The height of the belt has to be determined by the bottom edge of the bund, which is itself determined by the length of the codpiece/strap that goes between the legs. Longer codpiece = higher belt and vice versa. So if you have a short codpiece/strap then your belt HAS to be lower. All the more reason why the bund and codpiece should be separate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.