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Hello all! I (like half the people posting on this forum) am a new enthusiast, looking to buy my first set of armor! I have been researching for about a month. but hearing how badly certain products (the rubies inc. helmet comes to mind) have been in the mail, I have my trepedations. right now, it looks like Kropserkel is who I'm gonna be going with. but before I press that send button on paypal, is there anything about the Kropserkel armor that I should be worried about? thanks!

Dixon

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Hey Dixon! Welcome to the BSN! Where in NY are ya? Im in Oceanside out on Long Island NY :)

 

Worried about? Na, but i think you'd be better off with SC armor. His turn-around times are quicker and its more accurate then the KS, it may also be less expensive, but im not 100% sure on that.

 

That said, id go with the KS helmet if you want a lightweight ABS plastic helmet. MLC is good for Fiberglass helmets if you like a little more weight to the helmet and a more "real feel" I hear the NI helmet is fairly nice as well, but i have no personal experience with that one, so i cant say anything about it for sure.

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Thanks for the quick and helpful answer! I live in Rochester NY near the US-Canadian border. anyways, thanks for letting me know to go for sc armor! I also did see that turnaround times were pretty bad for KS, so I'll check out the sc armor. hope to see you at some joint garrison event!

Dixon

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as others have reported here, the KS helmet suffers from poor molding, I guess their bucks have had issues for a long time and the pulls have been inferior.

 

lots of people here prefer the SC helmet but I personally dont care for the way they are put together with that ugly seam running around the back of the helmet.

 

I have a MLC and I like it but I dont troop in it so there might be a weight concern but others have posted its no big deal.

 

The NI looks good and from what I saw the one person on here that ordered one didnt have any issues (correct me if I'm wrong guys) and it's also fiberglass

 

The LW is the way to go but good luck getting one, they are harder to get a hold of then leprechauns!

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The KS has the same seem as the SC around the back. They both go together the same. The KS has the "ears" on the faceplate that the SC does not which helps with assembly and accuracy. The SC looks very soft to me and just looks off. The KS i have for my Shadow scout was pulled fairly recently (last year i believe) and looks fine pull wise. As far as i knew they had fixed their molds. By the look of my current KS helmet, id think they did, but one never knows lol.

 

 

I would agree the LW is the way to go, but i figured he wants to get trooping! Like you said, they are hard to get a hold of, but it would be a great upgrade later on. Another option is the Chef helmet, i think that one is also very well done, pretty much on par with LW.

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So really what I've learned from this so far:

 

•KS helmet requires more modification but the end result is more satisfying

•SC helmet is better built out of the box but isnt as accurate as a finished KS helmet

 

Anything else I'm missing here helmet wise?

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Yeah I think of the three easiest ones to get (KS, MLC, SC), KS is the best way to go. But if you can get your hands on the LW, by all means....

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Oh, trust me, imma keep my eyes out for an LW, but I'm kinda budget pressed so I'm not gonna keep my hopes up too far. Thanks for all the useful help, you've both been really helpful!

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Oh, trust me, imma keep my eyes out for an LW, but I'm kinda budget pressed so I'm not gonna keep my hopes up too far. Thanks for all the useful help, you've both been really helpful!

 

Cool. There are lots of tips on the boards about how to make the KS more screen accurate, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask

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I just got a KS helmet last month. The pull was good but the visor was pre-trimmed with different sized widths on either side of the visor. I didn't notice it until I was trying to line up the faceplate on the crown of the helmet.

 

Nothing huge, but made the build a little harder.

 

The customer service and turn around time from SC was amazing for my armor. I just wish they had a larger helmet. You'll enjoy the build.

 

Welcome to the BSN bro.

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I just got a KS helmet last month. The pull was good but the visor was pre-trimmed with different sized widths on either side of the visor. I didn't notice it until I was trying to line up the faceplate on the crown of the helmet.

 

Nothing huge, but made the build a little harder.

 

The customer service and turn around time from SC was amazing for my armor. I just wish they had a larger helmet. You'll enjoy the build.

 

Welcome to the BSN bro.

 

Thanks Isaac! I happen to have a very small head so atm I'm pondering on whether or not I want to try an SC helmet. While there's the whole head side risk, I've read about people waiting in excess of 6 months for a KS helmet to come in the mail

Its a big gamble, but I think the pay off would be worth it.

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One thing that took me a while to notice about the SC helmet but once you do, it's really obvious - the ridges under the eyes are much less defined than on most other helmets, and certainly less than on the original screen model. That just put me off getting it.

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Stay away from the KS armor. Shoulders are not accurate, TD is wonky, and belt boxes are enormous. Ask me how I know. I had to end up spending more money to get the correct parts from SC to make it look good. SC is quick turnaround and looks great.

 

As for the KS helmet. I likes it :)

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I posted a pic last week of the MLC, KS and SC side by side. The SC to me looks the least screen accurate:

http://forum.bikerscout.net/index.php?showtopic=10737&view=findpost&p=116156

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So would SC armor and a KS bucket sound like a good plan then?

 

Affirmative. That is a good plan.

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Thanks to this thread (and my constant research on armor parts), it is now impossible to enjoy this photo without being irked by how the face plate on the (probably Rubies Inc.) helmet is flattened and how the visor is tilted to one side. Oh, and how she's wearing her elbow pads on her upper arm. Oh yeah, and how she's wearing Storm Trooper forearm guards. *shudder*6131007552_547e39477f_z.jpg

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Oh, now that's just funny! HA!

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Thanks to this thread (and my constant research on armor parts), it is now impossible to enjoy this photo without being irked by how the face plate on the (probably Rubies Inc.) helmet is flattened and how the visor is tilted to one side. Oh, and how she's wearing her elbow pads on her upper arm. Oh yeah, and how she's wearing Storm Trooper forearm guards. *shudder*6131007552_547e39477f_z.jpg

 

Lmao..actually, she's wearing the armor right on her arms. Those are the biceps parts on her biceps, and her forarm parts are indeed scout armor, just old inaccurate scout armor. Techinically everything is in the right places..it's just a shame that ugly armor is on her lol.

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Just wanted to pipe in with a thanks for all the advice, I was thinking of going down the exact same path and a lot of questions have been answered! Cheers GUYS!

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