Thoughts: Camo Water Transfer

[CROW62]

What you think about this faster methode to camo?

 

Water Transfer Film, the utube link shows the F297 camo pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgMlonL2yA

 

here the link of the camo patterns on that store:

http://hgarts.com/hy...camouflages?p=1

 

and I found this on evilbay:

http://www.ebay.com/...%3D271629866247

 

After the silver lay and covering the future silver spots (I will use mustard) will go the tan background layer, the armor parts could be covered with this water film, I will clean the mustard to show the silver and voila!

 

It is a KT camo that can be approved?

 

Gio

[TB-7076]

Does it work like paint coating or is it comparable to car wrapping?

If this technique looks like the reference and has no trade-offs making it inferior to paint I see no rason why it shouldn't qualify for approval.

[Chef]

The process is like a halfway house between wrapping and paint.

 

It has the finish of a painted surface, and is indeed prepared and finished in a very similar fashion using a base coat and a top laquer, but the process of application is like a wrap where it's applied in one 'dip'.

 

The final application colour can be varied by altering the base coat colour.

 

 

This is the process I am most likely to be using on my forest trooper when I can source the correct print.

[TB-7076]

Do you have access to a professional working environment for this technique or is it easy to get it done by yourself?

 

I mean looking at the videos it doesn't look too complex but there is stuff I have no idea of like sourcing and producing

the prints on suitable material. You need a basin and water warmed up to 30° but there is probably more....

 

carrier material, special colors, fixation and the like.

 

But it does look very interesting especially as the cgi clone camouflage doesn't feel like applied manually of some sort.

Nice find and looking forward to what evolves out of it.

[Chef]

No.... it's literally the warm water bath.

 

Then you can use an automotive base coat.

 

The film needs a special activator (which you can buy quite readily), which is about the only specialist bit of kit you need.

 

Then a top coat laquer.

 

That's it in a nutshell.

 

 

 

The custom car world has been using this for a while. Everything dipped in carbon fibre!

[CROW62]

I searched this technique for a while, you can even print your own design in a special paper, then peel and put to float on the warm water, then you spray an activator liquid and wait to dissolve the printed base, the pattern float free now, you inmerse slowly breaking the surface tension, you must to agitate the water to avoid over print portions, then you wait to dry the surface and apply a clear lay of lacque, this method is called water transfer film, google it, let me check my records and will return with the special paper for printer.

BTW is not the method that you create with various colors over the water surface, this is patterns previous printed or print by yourself.

I´ll be back...

[CROW62]

This is the link:

 

You can search other sources for paper and chemics, this is a very basic example of how ti water transferring is, you can use bigger water container, must to use blue tape on the margins, just take the idea of the first video on the first post, that is a very good way to make but you can use supplies like the link showed in this video.

 

If you can not find the accurate pattern (as that I showed of evilbay on first post), someone here can make or copy the K Camo and hang here in the tutorials to download and print everyone in our inkjet printers.

[CROW62]

No.... it's literally the warm water bath.

 

Then you can use an automotive base coat.

 

The film needs a special activator (which you can buy quite readily), which is about the only specialist bit of kit you need.

 

Then a top coat laquer.

 

That's it in a nutshell.

 

 

 

The custom car world has been using this for a while. Everything dipped in carbon fibre!

 

You are right, dont know why dont appeared your post before, you gotcha Rob.

[CROW62]

Retaking the original post, would be this pattern accepted for Kashyyyk camo? :

 

http://www.ebay.com/...%3D271629866247

 

There is a pencil over the film to size reference.

[TB-7076]

I think the only exisiting camo close is the digital camo but a bit scaled up and not that sharp edged:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYDROGRAPHIC-WATER-TRANSFER-HYDRODIPPING-HYDRO-DIP-GREEN-DIGI-CAMO-CAMOUFLAGE/191134640166?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25881%26meid%3D02e53954e8b0465a9a48ab76e9ac35be%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10819%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271608980806&rt=nc

[Imrageth]

Not sure if you guys know ALiexpress but basically it's a sort of Chinese ebay where people sell individual items as opposed to Aliexpress which is a wholesale supplier. I found a cheaper water transfer film for inkjet printing..

http://www.aliexpres...1893133030.html

 

It's way cheaper than the US one.. 21$ with shipping for 30 A4 pages.. size is not optimal but it's cheap so even if it turns out to be a failure, you won't loose much. Being able to print it in your own printer will allow you to make 100% accurate pattern in colour that you want.

 

I like the idea and I would go for that if I didn't order my paints already. However I am happy to help you, Gio

[CROW62]

Not sure if you guys know ALiexpress but basically it's a sort of Chinese ebay where people sell individual items as opposed to Aliexpress which is a wholesale supplier. I found a cheaper water transfer film for inkjet printing..

http://www.aliexpres...1893133030.html

 

It's way cheaper than the US one.. 21$ with shipping for 30 A4 pages.. size is not optimal but it's cheap so even if it turns out to be a failure, you won't loose much. Being able to print it in your own printer will allow you to make 100% accurate pattern in colour that you want.

 

I like the idea and I would go for that if I didn't order my paints already. However I am happy to help you, Gio

 

I bought previously on Alibaba and aliexpress, sadly they dont take paypal and you must to check very well the provider before give your credit card data, the good thing is they have the scrow option, the ideal is find an A3 size paper provider and usually this provider will have the activator too, some ebay sellers sell kits but I feel are expensive compared with china providers, the hard part is that the customs can object the chemicals entrance, other point is that each wtpaper maker use an specific activator formula, so, you must to buy the activator in conjunction with the paper to assure the good results.

 

Now, we have a lot of suppliers worldwide BUT not the appropiated camo design, I think the first step is create our own Kashyyyk camo design. I have not skills but if I could I would take the screened camo and paste sevaral times twisting the orientation.

 

If someone with experience can help us will be wonderful.

[Imrageth]

I can help with the design.

 

As for the paper, I agree that A3 would be better but it's more expensive. You can always place 2x A4 next to each other and maybe it will work? You can try and get paper from CHina and the activator from ebay. You should save quite a lot that way.

[CROW62]

I can help with the design.

 

As for the paper, I agree that A3 would be better but it's more expensive. You can always place 2x A4 next to each other and maybe it will work? You can try and get paper from CHina and the activator from ebay. You should save quite a lot that way.

 

THANKS, a big thanks Roman, the design will be the base of success, I think A3 or 11"x17" will be ok cause in the water the surfaces will curve and you can not have tape joining the A4 printed portions margins, if you agree with the design I will make my homework looking for a good WTPaper provider, we must to buy a lot for USA and another lot for EUROPE, from China is better buy a lot instead a little, cause the shipping cost is almost the same for 10 foils vs 100 foils, how many A3 papers you stimate for cover a Kashyyyk armor set?

[CROW62]

I talked with China providers, resuming:

You must to use ORIGINAL inks to print in this paper, fully recommended the epson printers, you buy locally clear lacque spray, apply on the armor piece surface and wait to dry before to dip on the water.

After all process described in the above links let fry and apply a final clear lacque spray.

 

So we will need A3 paper and activator, found a provider that will sell both parts cheap and free shipping from China, if you dont receive the items you always can ask to Aliexpress for a refund (you must to register to buy).

 

Both items are from same seller, you must message to send togheter:

 

Paper A3 10 sheets: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-Water-Transfer-Printing-Film-for-Inkjet-printer-A3-size-hydrographic-film-decorative/1752528320.html

 

Activators enough for 10 A3 sheets: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-100ml-Activator-A-and-B-for-Water-Transfer-Printing-Film-decorative-material/319023_1690670210.html

 

Will be 68usd total, I recommend buy now cause free shipping must take 3 weeks to USA and Europe and to my country use to take 6 or 7 weeks, in the meanwhile we can see the advance in the Kashyyyk camo design.

 

Gio