Fettski Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It seems like everyone has trouble with this. Is there someone out there that could put together a series of do's and dont's. Maybe even a pic or 2 from the wearers POV looking down. I know that different people will have differing results but I think there would be value if someone had the time. Maybe a right vs wrong series of images. I know i have been using a mirror and every time i use it, i am constantly making tiny adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Here is this picture... It's not specifically for the boxes, but it illustrates it quite nicely. They should sit right in the centre of the thigh, half way between the belt line and the thigh straps. Biased slightly towards the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettski Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thats not a very good picture. From the comments i have been reading, if someone posts a pic looking like this, they will be told the thigh boxes need to be more on their side. It would be nice, for example, to have a pic of right and wrong next to each other in a sticky or something that can be referenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB-7076 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Most people seem to put them way too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That's not a good picture??? That's archive material from LFL. Doesn't get much better than that. In truth, there is no hard and fast rule, no millimetre measurement to correctly place the boxes. What can be said about them is that 1: they should not be so high up as to touch the main belt itself. 2: Not so low down that they are hanging over the thigh straps (or where they should be!), 3: Not round the front so they look like a pair of cricket boxes 4: Not so far round the back you risk sitting on them! Here are some screen shots and other LFL related material to illustrate where they sort of should be. Again, as each costume was different slightly and shifted during filming, there may be slight variation. As you can see on this one, because of the sitting position, they look like they've shifted around the sides more. Here's some of the clearance shots of various scouts that have come through the doors. (ignore any annotations). I'll see if I can find any pictures of what NOT to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettski Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I should not have been so vague in my comment. I meant that there are a few issues with the pic. The white is all washed out, there appears to be a gap between the top of the belt and the bottom of bund, and the thigh boxes look too far forward to me(which leads me to the reason behind this thread). Looking at that archive picture, if used as our reference, our thigh boxes should nearly be touching the cod cover. I have seen a lot of comments about thigh boxes needing to be adjusted further back, not forward like this pic would suggest. The pics you posted are more of what i was hoping for. I think this could be useful to myself and to other scouts to get a better idea of where they should be. I think the requirement is more than between the front and the back, between the belt and knees. Forgive the exaggeration, but you kinda get my point i hope, that there is a grey area and an ideal area. if anyone has the time to post some good better best pics together, it could potentially be a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Yeah, the gap is actually because we believe (from the evidence above) that the cod section of the cummerbund was not actually attached to the main torso section, but was attached to the belt instead. But you can see from the above pictures (I'll try and rip a load more screen grabs, but anyone feel free to add some in!!) that the boxes don't sit 'exactly' on the sides, but are biased ever so slightly to the front. How close they sit to the cod part will ultimately depend on a number of factors. The size of your boxes, your overall girth and the size of your cod flap. It's not a major issue. Certainly nothing that would stop basic clearance. Just as long as their not hanging round your knees or using them as ear-muffs. I always advise people to have them half way between the bottom of the belt and the top of your thigh straps (obviously this will differ visually from person to person) and that they sit towards the outside of the thigh and are close to being level front to rear. Generally the only person who you really need to 'please' is your GML, and generally they'll accept pictorial evidence that supports your position. Then there is the Lancer panel if you choose to go that route. Everyone else is really just supposition. Go with what you see on screen, use screen grabs etc to back up your argument. It will never look 100% because the armour sets are not exactly cast from screen used, so sizing differences creep in, and most of us are not the same size and build of the movie actors, so once again, things shift about and will not look 100%. So anyway... I wouldn't worry quite so much about it. When it's right, it'll look right. When it's not... it'll look like these. (and I apologise in advance if you recognise yourself or anyone you know in the following pictures. These were ripped from the internet. It's not intended to poke fun or belittle anyone... Just examples of how it shouldn't be done). Too high Too Low Hanging round the back (and too low) All kinds of wrong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chex Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lmao that last pic is ALL kinds of wrong. I generally tell people to center them on the thigh, but that's personal preference. Here's mine from when I submitted for Lancer way back when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeEleven Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 My GML wanted to see "between 2in and 3in" between belt and box, so I had to send this pic in with my submission. The guy who took the photos for me apologized for not noticing the strap had flipped around with the clip hidden. So, yeah, what Chef said, it's up to your GML, although he's gonna share it with the detachment staff and choose whether or not to accept their opinion. I think closer to the front without touching the cod and not so far back that you'll sit on them is a good rule. I hadn't heard the halfway between thigh strap and belt, but that works too. In my experience (and helping a friend get approved), they should be higher than you think they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicaljedi Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thanks for posting this guys! I'm on this part of my build right now, and this is very helpful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettski Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thanks for posting this guys! I'm on this part of my build right now, and this is very helpful... Thank you for commenting. I was really hoping someone would find this helpful. It is nice to have the do's and dont's in the same thread and i thank those who have posted images and commented on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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