Looking for a little help here

[mlinetzky]

I'd like to make a TB that carries a rifle. Which rifle should it be? I'm having trouble figuring that out. I've seen here that it's a DLT-19, but people have also said it's a DC15x. Anyone here who can clarify please post a reply.

[Gaunt899]

Well the only sniper rifle seen in the hands of a scout it's the DC15x or E-11s.This come from the Battlefront game,the developers probably were inspired by the DLT-19 in fact the appearance is similar but it is a different weapon.Personally i would choose the DLT-19 just because it's seen in ANH.

[mlinetzky]

For a completely accurate costume, which is the better option?

[EnigmaEngine]

Technically, none of them are on the crl. But that's only going to matter on "canon" troops. I've been carrying a regular E-11 just to have something that's chunkier than my holdout and looks right, while slowly talking to a friend about building a scoped DLT-19.

 

There's been a load of back-and-forth debate on it, but there's not really a right or wrong answer. Battlefront 2 had scouts carrying the DC-15x. The DLT-19 was in the movies, and I've seen at least one instance of scouts using them in a comic (as well as E-11's). So it's really up to you, what you like better and think you can build. I'm doing a DLT-19 just because there's more info/builds for them, and you don't need the extra stuff covering the barrel that the DC-15x has.

 

So for a COMPLETELY accurate costume...none of them. Because sniper rifles are awesome and it makes sense that TB's would have them, take your pick.

[mlinetzky]

I'm leaning more towards the DC15x. It looks sleeker and I came across someone's build and it turned out amazing.

[NegativeEleven]

As Gaunt says, there isn't one in the CRL, so anything you carry besides an approved holdout blaster is technically "wrong" in the eyes of the 501st. That said, most troops aren't "canon" events and you can get away with a little bit. If one shows up on the CRL, and that's up to the command staff, then you probably want to have that one. The DC-15x is only seen in that video game and one of the Sideshow Collectables scout statues. And those two differ in a few ways. I haven't seen a third source, and technically 3 sources with pictures are needed to add something to the CRL.

 

I'm working on vac-form molds for the barrel of the DC-15x if that helps sway you at all. I'm using the WOF template for the German MG-42 as a template. I'm mirroring the left side of the barrel since the right side is open on the MG. Mine's gonna have a 3/4" PVC conduit inner barrel, probably sitting on an aluminum "U" channel for strength.

 

I'm almost done with the vac-form mold for the top cover of the MG-42. I know the screencaps from Battlefront don't really show it, but I think it'll look good and I can also use them to make an MG-42 if someone wants Dengar's rifle.

 

I agree with the discussion over in the scouts barracks here, that there should really only be one scout sniper at a troop. I know of one in my garrison, and he's has seniority. If he'll be at a troop with his, I won't bring mine.

[NegativeEleven]

I hope to post pictures of those molds in a couple of days over on Gaunt's build thread. Like I said, the top cover is almost done, but the barrel ones are just blocks of wood with a slight slope carved into them. I think the barrel is gonna have to be 3 pieces: 2 sides (with half of the bottom on each) and the rounded top. My rifle body is 3 layers of 3/4" pine.

[4505Marcel]

The way I look at it I've never seen a scout carry a DLT19, that's a TK/sandy weapon. The only true weapon is the hold out pistol this is fact, a handful carry a DC15x in the battle front game. So there is the argument under EU, which is why I built that one. At the end of the day the E11 is just wrong, and the DLT19 is used a lot also by other characters and only really seen on a couple of busts and that was down to lack of research and being lazy, so I prefer to look completely different and use the DC15 only because no other character can really use it,

The DC is much more interesting in the barrel, is I would go that route bro

[Griffin-X]

AND, now that Disney has "eliminated" the EU...it's sort of a moot point for what is or is not canon. We may well see scouts carrying something entirely different in episode VII. Just my 2 cents...

[4505Marcel]

Now scouts in episode 7 would be cool

[shdwtrpr13]

I put my vote in for the DC15. it will be my first (or second pending pep binocs) add on for my scout when I get my helmet it. and I can't wait to see what NE pumps out from his vac.

[EnigmaEngine]

I also have some hope for Scouts in the Rebels animated series coming out.

[NegativeEleven]

Well, I think that EU stuff is still up for consideration for reference material. Disney has said they're going to create a new level of canon "legendary" for that stuff. It's not going away. I think it'll be treated more like Batman's Year One or Marvel's What If.

[Goubatsu]

Theres at least two accounts in comics of scouts wielding DLT-19's(which i can post later for proof). So I wouldn't argue that they don't use them at all.

 

To me, in my opinion, it's more accurate for people to use a dlt-19 (easier to source, and is actually on screen), instead of everyone making custom sniper rifles left right and center, that all look different to one another. Consistency basically.

[Griffin-X]

Well, I think that EU stuff is still up for consideration for reference material. Disney has said they're going to create a new level of canon "legendary" for that stuff. It's not going away. I think it'll be treated more like Batman's Year One or Marvel's What If.

 

Oh - the books, comics, and games are still there. But, Disney does not recognize them as canon at this point. At least, not as part of their new canon lineup. They have been vocal at recent "canon only" events in FL - allowing only characters seen in the films. The EU troopers were not able to participate. Chex may know more about this deal. Personally, I have never done a "canon only" event (Legion member since 2011).

 

From what I have read, the Legion still supports EU (as it was and is). We're all Star Wars fans (period), regardless of who owns the franchise.

[NegativeEleven]

Back to the rifle topic, and to Goubatsu, I'm using the MG-42 for most of my reference material, rather than screen grabs from Battlefront. The MG-42 was seen in the original trilogy (Dengar had one). Since the earlier model, the MG-34, was used as the basis for the DLT, it's not too far out there to assume the Battlefront designers would have tried to emulate a similar gun if they did half the research that 501st costume builders do. I'm also going back to Marcel's build fairly often because he did a great job on that, especially in capturing the details from Battlefront that are obviously different from the MG-42, most notably the top of the barrel.