Darth Chridan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I think the job could have been done a lot better. Definitely....and for this loooooooong time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Another picture found on the RPF. To cost that much and to get such a gap and uneven trim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 right hand side of faceplate/cover seems to be touching the back? on the side. the gap allows the front to be raised up alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Chridan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Another picture found on the RPF. To cost that much and to get such a gap and uneven trim. Wtf.....this is really horrible -.- Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire 10 lifestyle mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Novice builder/modelers could make a straighter cut. That is horrendous!!! \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 And they have Disney’s name and TM printed on the card. I am really curious if Disney actually acknowledged that since they may be the strictest company IN THE WORLD for protecting their brand. Huh!!! Loop hole for us buyers maybe??? \m/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 More pictures from The Replica Prop Forum: Look at that jaw flair out where the front/back meet. Add to that the huge gap on the visor and this is not looking good. And this is from GINO (posted on the RPF). Hey man don't speak for me.Is the helmet an absolute perfect replica? Of course not. Always knew it wasn't going to be from the start and knowing we were doing them in fiberglass. Certain compromises just had to be made. Period. Less compromises could have been made if the visor did not have to lift up' date=' but then people would complain about that. This helmet presented unique challenges way more severe than any other SW helmet we could have picked so to me it's amazing that it actually made it thought production at all. Don Post tried and failed and understandably so. I don't have a production helmet in hand to assess some of these latest concerns. Some of the criticisms I've read are just silly and some could be credible. The gap on top was intentional as there needed to be plenty of clearance when the visor is put into the 'up' position so that it wouldn't scrape against the top of the helmet. You can get away with this with plastic, but not fiberglass. On the masters I submitted, only enough material was removed to give proper clearance. So anyone with one in hand, take a look at the gap and see how much there is once you are swinging the visor open. It was intended to be only enough to ensure clearance. Either way, to me even the potentially credible ones still appear to be very minor in the grand scheme of things and 90% of the customers this was geared towards will be ecstatic once they have it. And they should because it's still a beautiful helmet regardless of what I would consider to be minor issues.[/quote'] All I see is excuses, excuses, excuses. And where is that Legend Edition people paid for years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Chridan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 To the statement of Gino.....well,what should I say.... The facts are on the table...where was the problem to make this helmet out from normal ABS plastic?!? Fibreglass is more susceptible for damages...alone if I think at the visor And about this statement: The gap on top was intentional as there needed to be plenty of clearance when the visor is put into the 'up' position so that it wouldn't scrape against the top of the helmet If they had made a good job at this place/area everyone wouldn't complain...especially at the trim work...not to mention the chin area All in all...if you want a good replica of an original screen used helmet, then you have to order at RS. Amen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762s Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 my visor gap on one my many RS helmets... working on my 5th and 6th kit build and they open and lock fully! now, i dont see where a comprimise had to be made just because it made out of fiberglass...its just an excuse for poor craftsmanship! even the cheek flair is poor craftsmanship. if you pride yourself in your work and see problems like these then you would have addressed the problem and corrected them. this just shows me(us) that efx only cared about the money side of this project! its pretty upsetting to see companies push out a products like this to their community! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 now, i dont see where a comprimise had to be made just because it made out of fiberglass...lit just an excuse for poor craftsmanship! even the cheek flair is poor craftsmanship. if you pride yourself in your work and see problems like these then you would have addressed the problem and corrected them. this just shows me(us) that efx only cared about the money side of this project! its pretty upsetting to see companies push out a products like this to their community! I've been silent through much of this thread since the eFX Lid pics started coming out. I had to "Like" and Quote Ken's comment as is it DEAD-ON CORRECT. My RS is beautiful (IMO - I was one of the lucky that was delivered a spot-on one) and seeing the pics of the eFX really stress me out. Also, though not screen-accurate, my former MLC versions (I had 3 variants) had no issue with the visor gap and they were fiberglass builds. ~ Grendel_Blitz \m/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 one could cut that flair off and re glass a better shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Chridan Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 my visor gap on one my many RS helmets... working on my 5th and 6th kit build and they open and lock fully! now, i dont see where a comprimise had to be made just because it made out of fiberglass...its just an excuse for poor craftsmanship! even the cheek flair is poor craftsmanship. if you pride yourself in your work and see problems like these then you would have addressed the problem and corrected them. this just shows me(us) that efx only cared about the money side of this project! its pretty upsetting to see companies push out a products like this to their community! Yep...I totally agree with you. It's rather an excuse.... Btw...nice build. I don't have a RS lid, but I'm totally happy with my LW helmet which I've fully modificated. But perhaps one day I'll buy a RS bucket....out of sheer boredom becaus I like the build of it so much :lol: :P :blink: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 This picture I saw on FB show the flair looking pretty bad seen from below... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 This picture I saw on FB show the flair looking pretty bad seen from below... Ah, interesting, that explains why they had to alter the original mold; the fibreglass and the padding are much thicker than the ABS used for the originals. That's why they had to widen the jaw so that it wouldn't touch/scratch the helmet. Unfortunately the proportions of the bikerscout helmet are quite delicate - alter a little bit and it may change the appearance entirely. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 And, of course, eFX went COLD again on communications. I thought for a brief moment that I would get my lid last month. Fool me 10 times... shame on me. \m/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Btw, here's a great review on the efx limited edition helmet from Starwarshelmets >>> http://www.starwarshelmets.com/EFX_Scout_Trooper_Limited_Review.htm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Btw, here's a great review on the efx limited edition helmet from Starwarshelmets >>> http://www.starwarshelmets.com/EFX_Scout_Trooper_Limited_Review.htm That just settles it then. The EFX after all this time is not even in the same league. And at that price! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 That just settles it then. The EFX after all this time is not even in the same league. And at that price! I did not expect to say this but... "RS for the WIN!!!!" (great article on both lids BTW) And I will reiterate what I have previously mentioned... A fiberglass build should not have been the fault of the huge visor gap and jaw-flare. Mardon's (MLC) lids were nice and tight and he made three slightly different iterations. It's just haste, lack of concern, laziness or all of three that eFX are accountable for in the design. \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 EFX Scout helmet arrived. Like I said before I wasn't expecting too much difference from what I've seen from collector's pics already. The helmet is quite heavy, shiny and looks solid, coming with a nice COA, but is not as accurate as it could have been. The jaw flair and the big visor gap are the most prominent issues with this replica. My visor closes quite ok looking from sides, but looking from top it the gap is wider on one side than the other. The visor itself has some accuracy problems as well. The snout is not that sharp, but was expecting to be softer so it is ok. The stand looks cheap, but seems reasonably steady and solid, still is definitely inferior to other EFX stands. Price is quite high for what you get in the end, expecially for international collectors who weren't bribed by EFX with a free Vader helmet. The overall appearance is ok, less accurate than RS Prop Masters and maybe even LoneWolf, and looks better than Altmanns, the other licensed high end Scout helmet. An ok replica, but inferior to previous EFX LE helmet replicas. It is not the worst Scout helmet out there, but definitely not the best. Comparison EFX vs LoneWolf (LW) vs RS Prop Masters Scout Trooper Helmets: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliaz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 For that kind of money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 This was made so certain people have access to the ILM archives. In the end I'm glad I have the RS. Will keep the EFX too, in the future I might sell it, there are always collectors of licensed replicas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 For that kind of money... Seriously. Like I said earlier, I'd be willing to overlook it's flaws if it was like $200. For $700? Nope. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 might be time for another helmet poll like Griffin started 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel_Blitz Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 might be time for another helmet poll like Griffin started EZ... #1: RS #2: LW #3: eFX #4: Altmann* (*I will always love these lids) #5: ......... KS, SC, Mons, WTF, etc... I have not seen, held or built. Mardon (MLC) made great lids before all of these BTW! \m/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 EZ... #1: RS #2: LW #3: eFX #4: Altmann* (*I will always love these lids) #5: ......... My top exactly. i also used to own a KS, but it is lower than top 5, maybe even out of top 10 unless modded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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